From athen-list at u.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 12:01:32 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Janet Johnson via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] athen-list Digest, Vol 229, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 14:03:59 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Deborah Armstrong via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] AI tool question Message-ID: Has anyone found a tool that will automatically describe all pictures in a word document or PDF, such as a class handout, a slide ceck or a textbook chapter? I know JAWS has a great picture smart AI feature that lets you locate a graphic on a web page or in a document and have it thoroughly described, but the user has to locate the picture, focus on it, and hit the right keystrokes. And users of other screen readers can download the free Be My Eyes app for Windows to do the same thing. A variety of iPhone and Android apps also describe pictures and scenes for the visually impaired including Seeing AI, Lookout, Speak-A-Boo, Focus Assist and and Be My Eyes. And of course the Meta smart glasses are super for this as well if properly prompted. But I know of no tool that has automated this for an entire document. It would be so cool if such a tool existed. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 14:58:52 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Bishop, Jeff - (jeffbis) via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] AI tool question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ChatGPT can do this. Get ahold of me and we can test this. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong via athen-list Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2025 3:04 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXT] [Athen] AI tool question External Email ________________________________ Has anyone found a tool that will automatically describe all pictures in a word document or PDF, such as a class handout, a slide ceck or a textbook chapter? I know JAWS has a great picture smart AI feature that lets you locate a graphic on a web page or in a document and have it thoroughly described, but the user has to locate the picture, focus on it, and hit the right keystrokes. And users of other screen readers can download the free Be My Eyes app for Windows to do the same thing. A variety of iPhone and Android apps also describe pictures and scenes for the visually impaired including Seeing AI, Lookout, Speak-A-Boo, Focus Assist and and Be My Eyes. And of course the Meta smart glasses are super for this as well if properly prompted. But I know of no tool that has automated this for an entire document. It would be so cool if such a tool existed. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 16:00:20 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Top Tech Tidbits via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] AI tool question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <006a01db7505$73b8aa90$5b29ffb0$@toptechtidbits.com> I could not agree with you more Debee. While there isn?t yet a widely known tool that fully automates the process of describing all images in a Word document or PDF at once, there are some promising approaches and partial solutions: 1. Microsoft 365?s Accessibility Checker & Alt Text Auto-Generation * Word and PowerPoint in Microsoft 365 have an automatic alt text generation feature. It can generate descriptions for images, but it requires manual review and editing. * You can run the Accessibility Checker (Review > Check Accessibility) to find missing alt text and fill in some of it automatically. 2. Adobe Acrobat Pro (for PDFs) * Acrobat has "Auto-Tag Document" in its accessibility tools, which sometimes adds descriptions, but they are basic and often need improvement. * You can also extract all images and process them separately with an AI tool. 3. Seeing AI & Lookout (for scanning documents) * If the document is printed or saved as an image-based PDF, Seeing AI (iOS) and Google Lookout (Android) can scan pages and read out descriptions of images alongside the text. 4. Custom AI Workflows (Python + GPT-based models) * If you're open to a more technical approach, you can extract images from a document using Python (with PyMuPDF or pdf2image for PDFs, or python-docx for Word) and run them through AI vision models like OpenAI's GPT-4V, Google Vision AI, or Microsoft Azure Computer Vision to generate descriptions automatically. 5. Be My Eyes (AI-Powered Virtual Assistant Mode) * The latest AI-powered "Virtual Volunteer" mode in Be My Eyes (powered by GPT-4V) allows users to upload an entire document with images and get descriptions?though still not fully automated. Possible Future Solutions It would be amazing if JAWS, NVDA, or another screen reader implemented a feature where you could just press a button, and it would automatically describe all images in a document in one go. Hopefully, developers will take note of this need! Aaron Di Blasi, PMP ?The greatest barrier to accessibility is indifference.? ? 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If you have received this e-mail and attachments in error, please delete the e-mail and its attachments from your computer. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong via athen-list Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2025 5:04 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] AI tool question Has anyone found a tool that will automatically describe all pictures in a word document or PDF, such as a class handout, a slide ceck or a textbook chapter? I know JAWS has a great picture smart AI feature that lets you locate a graphic on a web page or in a document and have it thoroughly described, but the user has to locate the picture, focus on it, and hit the right keystrokes. And users of other screen readers can download the free Be My Eyes app for Windows to do the same thing. A variety of iPhone and Android apps also describe pictures and scenes for the visually impaired including Seeing AI, Lookout, Speak-A-Boo, Focus Assist and and Be My Eyes. And of course the Meta smart glasses are super for this as well if properly prompted. But I know of no tool that has automated this for an entire document. It would be so cool if such a tool existed. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 94349 bytes Desc: not available URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 16:05:20 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Top Tech Tidbits via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] AI tool question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007001db7506$269df020$73d9d060$@toptechtidbits.com> This is correct. We just tested it. We are using ChatGPT Plus, the $20 / month paid version. We have a custom GPT that we created specifically for providing ALT text descriptions. We just fed that custom GPT 10 images at once (by attaching them) and it described all 10 images instantly. Happy to share more if you need it. You can reach me off list at: ad@mvsltd.com . Aaron Di Blasi, PMP ?The greatest barrier to accessibility is indifference.? ? PR Director (2024-Present) AT-Newswire Access Technology's Digital Newswire https://at-newswire.com ? Publisher (2024-Present) AI-Weekly The Week's News in Artificial Intelligence https://ai-weekly.ai ? Publisher (2022-Present) Access Information News The Week's News in Access Information https://accessinformationnews.com ? Publisher (2020-Present) Top Tech Tidbits The Week's News in Access Technology https://toptechtidbits.com ? Sr. Project Management Professional (2006-Present) Mind Vault Solutions, Ltd. https://mvsltd.com ? 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If you have received this e-mail and attachments in error, please delete the e-mail and its attachments from your computer. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Bishop, Jeff - (jeffbis) via athen-list Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2025 5:59 PM To: Deborah Armstrong ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] AI tool question ChatGPT can do this. Get ahold of me and we can test this. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong via athen-list Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2025 3:04 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [EXT] [Athen] AI tool question External Email _____ Has anyone found a tool that will automatically describe all pictures in a word document or PDF, such as a class handout, a slide ceck or a textbook chapter? I know JAWS has a great picture smart AI feature that lets you locate a graphic on a web page or in a document and have it thoroughly described, but the user has to locate the picture, focus on it, and hit the right keystrokes. And users of other screen readers can download the free Be My Eyes app for Windows to do the same thing. A variety of iPhone and Android apps also describe pictures and scenes for the visually impaired including Seeing AI, Lookout, Speak-A-Boo, Focus Assist and and Be My Eyes. And of course the Meta smart glasses are super for this as well if properly prompted. But I know of no tool that has automated this for an entire document. It would be so cool if such a tool existed. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 94349 bytes Desc: not available URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 16:21:52 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Kelly Ford via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] AI tool question In-Reply-To: <006a01db7505$73b8aa90$5b29ffb0$@toptechtidbits.com> References: <006a01db7505$73b8aa90$5b29ffb0$@toptechtidbits.com> Message-ID: <888434A1-CF7F-48FF-BB73-7621A7332B9A@theideaplace.net> There are still possible solutions here, but the last one I would suggest is the automatic alttext generation in office 365. That is far and away, not using any of the newest technology, even that from Microsoft, that?s available to generate descriptions. On Feb 1, 2025, at 4:01?PM, Top Tech Tidbits via athen-list wrote: ? I could not agree with you more Debee. While there isn?t yet a widely known tool that fully automates the process of describing all images in a Word document or PDF at once, there are some promising approaches and partial solutions: 1. Microsoft 365?s Accessibility Checker & Alt Text Auto-Generation * Word and PowerPoint in Microsoft 365 have an automatic alt text generation feature. It can generate descriptions for images, but it requires manual review and editing. * You can run the Accessibility Checker (Review > Check Accessibility) to find missing alt text and fill in some of it automatically. 1. Adobe Acrobat Pro (for PDFs) * Acrobat has "Auto-Tag Document" in its accessibility tools, which sometimes adds descriptions, but they are basic and often need improvement. * You can also extract all images and process them separately with an AI tool. 1. Seeing AI & Lookout (for scanning documents) * If the document is printed or saved as an image-based PDF, Seeing AI (iOS) and Google Lookout (Android) can scan pages and read out descriptions of images alongside the text. 1. Custom AI Workflows (Python + GPT-based models) * If you're open to a more technical approach, you can extract images from a document using Python (with PyMuPDF or pdf2image for PDFs, or python-docx for Word) and run them through AI vision models like OpenAI's GPT-4V, Google Vision AI, or Microsoft Azure Computer Vision to generate descriptions automatically. 1. Be My Eyes (AI-Powered Virtual Assistant Mode) * The latest AI-powered "Virtual Volunteer" mode in Be My Eyes (powered by GPT-4V) allows users to upload an entire document with images and get descriptions?though still not fully automated. Possible Future Solutions It would be amazing if JAWS, NVDA, or another screen reader implemented a feature where you could just press a button, and it would automatically describe all images in a document in one go. Hopefully, developers will take note of this need! Aaron Di Blasi, PMP ?The greatest barrier to accessibility is indifference.? ? PR Director (2024-Present) AT-Newswire Access Technology's Digital Newswire https://at-newswire.com ? Publisher (2024-Present) AI-Weekly The Week's News in Artificial Intelligence https://ai-weekly.ai ? Publisher (2022-Present) Access Information News The Week's News in Access Information https://accessinformationnews.com ? Publisher (2020-Present) Top Tech Tidbits The Week's News in Access Technology https://toptechtidbits.com ? Sr. Project Management Professional (2006-Present) Mind Vault Solutions, Ltd. https://mvsltd.com ? 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If you have received this e-mail and attachments in error, please delete the e-mail and its attachments from your computer. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong via athen-list Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2025 5:04 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] AI tool question Has anyone found a tool that will automatically describe all pictures in a word document or PDF, such as a class handout, a slide ceck or a textbook chapter? I know JAWS has a great picture smart AI feature that lets you locate a graphic on a web page or in a document and have it thoroughly described, but the user has to locate the picture, focus on it, and hit the right keystrokes. And users of other screen readers can download the free Be My Eyes app for Windows to do the same thing. A variety of iPhone and Android apps also describe pictures and scenes for the visually impaired including Seeing AI, Lookout, Speak-A-Boo, Focus Assist and and Be My Eyes. And of course the Meta smart glasses are super for this as well if properly prompted. But I know of no tool that has automated this for an entire document. It would be so cool if such a tool existed. --Debee _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 94349 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 18:44:39 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Kelly Ford via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] AI tool question In-Reply-To: <888434A1-CF7F-48FF-BB73-7621A7332B9A@theideaplace.net> References: <006a01db7505$73b8aa90$5b29ffb0$@toptechtidbits.com> <888434A1-CF7F-48FF-BB73-7621A7332B9A@theideaplace.net> Message-ID: Hi, I suspect with a bit more experimentation and or better knowledge here on my part, the following Python script could solve this situation. I used ChatGPT to create this and asked it to find all images in a word document, get image descriptions from Open AI and then add those descriptions to the document. I couldn?t yet figure out how to have the descriptions used as alt text directly in the Word document, so they are currently added to the end of the document. I need to learn more about the docx module for Python I expect to solve this situation. Additionally, within the script, you may want to adjust the prompt text. This currently generates lengthy descriptions. Also, see that the file locations are currently hard coded to a specific directory on my computer so you?d want to modify those. This does require an Open AI key and money on the account but my experience in generating batches of descriptions with different API uses as I experiment is that in general I?ve spent less than one cent per description. There may be entirely better ways to do this. I just don?t like the default automatic alt text from Word and this was a way to experiment with something I?ve already been doing to try different image description technology. This is by no means production ready. Here is more from ChatGPT on all the requirements and then the script. Here is a comprehensive guide to setting up and running a Python-based script that extracts images from a Word document, generates detailed descriptions using llm, and appends the descriptions to the same document under a dedicated section. 1. Prerequisites Before running the script, ensure you have the following installed: * Python 3.x (Recommended: Latest stable version) * Download & install from: https://www.python.org/downloads/ * During installation, check the box for "Add Python to PATH" * Virtual Environment (Recommended but Optional) * Open Command Prompt (cmd.exe) and run: * python -m venv myenv * myenv\Scripts\activate (For Windows) * source myenv/bin/activate (For macOS/Linux) * Required Python Libraries Install necessary dependencies via pip: * pip install python-docx pillow lxml * llm CLI Installation (if not installed) * pip install llm Test if llm is correctly installed by running: llm --help 2. File Structure Setup Ensure you have the following files in the working directory: * testinput.docx ? Your input Word document with images * testoutput.docx ? The script will generate this as the output file * extracted_images/ ? The script automatically creates this folder for temporary image storage 3. Running the Script 1. Save the script as process_word_images.py 2. Run it from the command line: 3. python process_word_images.py 4. The script will: * Extract images from testinput.docx * Send them to llm for detailed descriptions * Append a "Detailed Image Descriptions" section at the end of testoutput.docx, listing each image with its description 4. Verifying Results * Open testoutput.docx in Microsoft Word * Scroll to the section "Detailed Image Descriptions" * Check that each image has a heading and a generated description If you encounter any issues, ensure: * Python and required libraries are installed * llm is correctly configured * The API key is valid and properly set in the script import os import docx import subprocess from PIL import Image from io import BytesIO # Configuration INPUT_DOCX = r"C:\playground\testinput.docx" OUTPUT_DOCX = r"C:\playground\testoutput.docx" IMAGE_DIR = "extracted_images" API_KEY = "? PROMPT = "Describe this image in vivid detail including all colors, objects, and as many details as you can." # Ensure the image directory exists os.makedirs(IMAGE_DIR, exist_ok=True) # Load the Word document doc = docx.Document(INPUT_DOCX) # Track images found image_index = 0 doc.add_paragraph("Detailed Image Descriptions", style="Heading 2") # Process each inline shape (image) in the document for shape in doc.inline_shapes: image_index += 1 image_name = f"image_{image_index}.png" image_path = os.path.join(IMAGE_DIR, image_name) # Extract image bytes image_data = shape._inline.graphic.graphicData.pic.blipFill.blip.embed image_part = doc.part.rels[image_data].target_part image_bytes = image_part.blob # Save extracted image with open(image_path, "wb") as img_file: img_file.write(image_bytes) print(f"Processing image: {image_name}") # Get description using LLM try: result = subprocess.run( ["llm", PROMPT, "-a", image_path, "--key", API_KEY], capture_output=True, text=True, check=True ) description = result.stdout.strip() except subprocess.CalledProcessError as e: description = f"Error processing image: {e.stderr}" # Append description at the end with heading doc.add_paragraph(f"Image {image_index}: {image_name}", style="Heading 3") doc.add_paragraph(description) print(f"Added description for {image_name}") # Save the updated document doc.save(OUTPUT_DOCX) print(f"Processing complete. Descriptions added at the end of {OUTPUT_DOCX}.") From: Kelly Ford Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2025 4:22 PM To: enews@toptechtidbits.com; athen-list@u.washington.edu Cc: Deborah Armstrong ; athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] AI tool question There are still possible solutions here, but the last one I would suggest is the automatic alttext generation in office 365. That is far and away, not using any of the newest technology, even that from Microsoft, that?s available to generate descriptions. On Feb 1, 2025, at 4:01?PM, Top Tech Tidbits via athen-list wrote: ? I could not agree with you more Debee. While there isn?t yet a widely known tool that fully automates the process of describing all images in a Word document or PDF at once, there are some promising approaches and partial solutions: 1. Microsoft 365?s Accessibility Checker & Alt Text Auto-Generation * Word and PowerPoint in Microsoft 365 have an automatic alt text generation feature. It can generate descriptions for images, but it requires manual review and editing. * You can run the Accessibility Checker (Review > Check Accessibility) to find missing alt text and fill in some of it automatically. 1. Adobe Acrobat Pro (for PDFs) * Acrobat has "Auto-Tag Document" in its accessibility tools, which sometimes adds descriptions, but they are basic and often need improvement. * You can also extract all images and process them separately with an AI tool. 1. Seeing AI & Lookout (for scanning documents) * If the document is printed or saved as an image-based PDF, Seeing AI (iOS) and Google Lookout (Android) can scan pages and read out descriptions of images alongside the text. 1. Custom AI Workflows (Python + GPT-based models) * If you're open to a more technical approach, you can extract images from a document using Python (with PyMuPDF or pdf2image for PDFs, or python-docx for Word) and run them through AI vision models like OpenAI's GPT-4V, Google Vision AI, or Microsoft Azure Computer Vision to generate descriptions automatically. 1. Be My Eyes (AI-Powered Virtual Assistant Mode) * The latest AI-powered "Virtual Volunteer" mode in Be My Eyes (powered by GPT-4V) allows users to upload an entire document with images and get descriptions?though still not fully automated. Possible Future Solutions It would be amazing if JAWS, NVDA, or another screen reader implemented a feature where you could just press a button, and it would automatically describe all images in a document in one go. Hopefully, developers will take note of this need! Aaron Di Blasi, PMP ?The greatest barrier to accessibility is indifference.? ? PR Director (2024-Present) AT-Newswire Access Technology's Digital Newswire https://at-newswire.com ? Publisher (2024-Present) AI-Weekly The Week's News in Artificial Intelligence https://ai-weekly.ai ? Publisher (2022-Present) Access Information News The Week's News in Access Information https://accessinformationnews.com ? Publisher (2020-Present) Top Tech Tidbits The Week's News in Access Technology https://toptechtidbits.com ? Sr. Project Management Professional (2006-Present) Mind Vault Solutions, Ltd. https://mvsltd.com ? Certified: Digital Marketing Associate, Meta Certified (2022 - Present) Social Marketing Professional, Hootsuite Certified (2020 - Present) Email Marketing Professional, Constant Contact Certified (2019 - Present) Specializing in: Digital Strategy and Content Marketing Social Media Advertising Online Fundraising ADA, WCAG and Section 508 Compliance Website: https://mvsltd.com ? Email: ad@mvsltd.com ? Toll Free: +1 (855) 578-6660?? 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If you have received this e-mail and attachments in error, please delete the e-mail and its attachments from your computer. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong via athen-list Sent: Saturday, February 1, 2025 5:04 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] AI tool question Has anyone found a tool that will automatically describe all pictures in a word document or PDF, such as a class handout, a slide ceck or a textbook chapter? I know JAWS has a great picture smart AI feature that lets you locate a graphic on a web page or in a document and have it thoroughly described, but the user has to locate the picture, focus on it, and hit the right keystrokes. And users of other screen readers can download the free Be My Eyes app for Windows to do the same thing. A variety of iPhone and Android apps also describe pictures and scenes for the visually impaired including Seeing AI, Lookout, Speak-A-Boo, Focus Assist and and Be My Eyes. And of course the Meta smart glasses are super for this as well if properly prompted. But I know of no tool that has automated this for an entire document. It would be so cool if such a tool existed. --Debee _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Sun Feb 2 11:43:19 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Deborah Armstrong via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] Webinar on NLS eReader Message-ID: Last Thursday, Freedom scientific held this webinar whose recording is now posted: Tips for Using Your NLS eReader with JAWS - Freedom Scientific There were actually more tips on acquiring and using the eReader than using it specifically with JAWS. However it works great with JAWS and NVDA. It's a Braille display with features that make it easy to read electronic Braille. This is a valuable tool for any blind Braille-reading student, especially one who does not have a Braille display. They are free to any NLS patron who orders Braille materials from NLS. Another reason to encourage your blind students to grab one of these is that electronic Braille is a heck of a lots hassle to produce than hardcopy embossed Braille. For Braille where layout and formatting is important it won't help students but for everything else, history, humanities, English, even foreign language study it will because it is so portable and you can put a huge library on it. Plus it does the Braille translation, so you can give your student a Word, HTML or Daisy file and it can also read those, including Bookshare. Eventually it is likely to also be able to read epub, at least that's been hinted at. One thing it doesn't do is speak. This is strictly a Braille device but it does make reading Braille much easier than any other display I've used because that is what it was designed for, specifically. Here are a few reviews: A Tale Of Two Ereaders: The Good News Launched By NLS | Accessworld | American Foundation for the Blind A Review of the Humanware NLS eReader: a Free Braille Display for NLS Patrons in the U.S. - Helen Keller Services There are also short training videos on YouTube, search for NLS eReader. NLS patrons can download the user guide in audio, and a embossed Braille copy comes with the device. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Mon Feb 3 05:44:47 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Karen McCall via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] PDF and the User Experience 2025 Research Survey Message-ID: Morning! Please share this survey with anyone using adaptive technology who reads PDFs. 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Best, Ramya Ramya Karthikeyan Alternative Format Specialist UCLA Center for Accessible Education ________________________________ From: PubFile Nexus > Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 12:01 PM To: Karthikeyan, Ramya > Subject: Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier with PubFile Nexus [https://mcusercontent.com/eb7a2c7372bebcf15894a40a3/images/ec05c137-314c-e911-26b6-9ac491518114.png] Pearson Now Fulfilling Requests for Textbook Files via PubFile Nexus [https://mcusercontent.com/eb7a2c7372bebcf15894a40a3/images/50c87c0b-51c1-4d01-7368-ad09bab8fdb8.jpg] Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier Sign up for your free PubFile Nexus account TODAY PubFile Nexus streamlines the process of requesting textbook files for students with print-related disabilities. The vast majority of requests that you place to Pearson on PubFile Nexus will be fulfilled immediately, and you can even send a link to the file directly to the student! 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Best, Ramya ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Karthikeyan, Ramya via athen-list Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 12:34 PM To: Susan Kelmer ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Fw: Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier with PubFile Nexus Great, thank you Susan!! Ramya Karthikeyan Alternative Format Specialist UCLA Center for Accessible Education 310-825-1501 (CAE line) http://www.cae.ucla.edu/ ________________________________ From: Susan Kelmer Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 12:32 PM To: Karthikeyan, Ramya ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] Fw: Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier with PubFile Nexus No, Pearson is not on their list of publishers. 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Best, Ramya Ramya Karthikeyan Alternative Format Specialist UCLA Center for Accessible Education ________________________________ From: PubFile Nexus > Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 12:01 PM To: Karthikeyan, Ramya > Subject: Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier with PubFile Nexus [https://mcusercontent.com/eb7a2c7372bebcf15894a40a3/images/ec05c137-314c-e911-26b6-9ac491518114.png] Pearson Now Fulfilling Requests for Textbook Files via PubFile Nexus [https://mcusercontent.com/eb7a2c7372bebcf15894a40a3/images/50c87c0b-51c1-4d01-7368-ad09bab8fdb8.jpg] Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier Sign up for your free PubFile Nexus account TODAY PubFile Nexus streamlines the process of requesting textbook files for students with print-related disabilities. The vast majority of requests that you place to Pearson on PubFile Nexus will be fulfilled immediately, and you can even send a link to the file directly to the student! 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Steven Kolberg, MA Florida SouthWestern State College Office of Information Technology Senior Coordinator Accessibility and LMS Administration Phone: (239) 432-6774 or X16774 Email: Steven.Bianco@FSW.edu Schedule with Me on Teams Follow the Florida State EIT Consortium on twitter and LinkedIn Florida SouthWestern State College, an equal access institution, prohibits discrimination in its employment, programs and activities based on race, sex, gender identity, age, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, disability, pregnancy, sexual orientation, marital status, genetic information or veteran status. Questions pertaining to educational equity, equal access or equal opportunity should be addressed to the College?s Title IX Coordinator/Equity Officer: Angie Snyder; Room A-106A; 8099 College Parkway SW, Fort Myers, FL 33919; (239) 489-9051; equity@fsw.edu. FSW online anonymous reporting www.fsw.edu/report. Inquiries/complaints can be filed with the Title IX Coordinator/Equity Officer online, in person, via mail, via email, or with the US Department of Education, Office of Civil Rights, Atlanta Office: 61 Forsyth St. SW Suite 19T70, Atlanta, GA 30303-8927. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Karthikeyan, Ramya via athen-list Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 4:04 PM To: Susan Kelmer ; Access Technology Higher Education Network ; Karthikeyan, Ramya Subject: Re: [Athen] Fw: Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier with PubFile Nexus CAUTION: Please Be Aware - This Email Originated Outside of FSW Does this collaboration between Georgia Tech and Peasrson (with invite for other publishers to join PubFile) mean that it is vying to be an alternative to ATN and EMMA? Just curious if anyone has any inside scoop ? Best, Ramya ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Karthikeyan, Ramya via athen-list > Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 12:34 PM To: Susan Kelmer >; Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Fw: Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier with PubFile Nexus Great, thank you Susan!! Ramya Karthikeyan Alternative Format Specialist UCLA Center for Accessible Education 310-825-1501 (CAE line) http://www.cae.ucla.edu/ ________________________________ From: Susan Kelmer > Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 12:32 PM To: Karthikeyan, Ramya >; Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: RE: [Athen] Fw: Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier with PubFile Nexus No, Pearson is not on their list of publishers. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Health and Wellness Services T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01DB7657.74D092A0] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karthikeyan, Ramya via athen-list Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 1:32 PM To: ATHEN-list Mailing List > Subject: [Athen] Fw: Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier with PubFile Nexus [External email - use caution] Hello! We are still in the process of having our legal dept. approving the new ATN agreement. In the meantime, I received an email that Pearson is starting to use "PubFile Nexus" for file sharing (seems to be through Georgia Tech!!). For those of you currently using ATN, is Pearson participating via ATN too? Thanks in advance! Best, Ramya Ramya Karthikeyan Alternative Format Specialist UCLA Center for Accessible Education ________________________________ From: PubFile Nexus > Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 12:01 PM To: Karthikeyan, Ramya > Subject: Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier with PubFile Nexus [https://mcusercontent.com/eb7a2c7372bebcf15894a40a3/images/ec05c137-314c-e911-26b6-9ac491518114.png] Pearson Now Fulfilling Requests for Textbook Files via PubFile Nexus [https://mcusercontent.com/eb7a2c7372bebcf15894a40a3/images/50c87c0b-51c1-4d01-7368-ad09bab8fdb8.jpg] Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier Sign up for your free PubFile Nexus account TODAY PubFile Nexus streamlines the process of requesting textbook files for students with print-related disabilities. The vast majority of requests that you place to Pearson on PubFile Nexus will be fulfilled immediately, and you can even send a link to the file directly to the student! 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In the meantime, I received an email that Pearson is starting to use "PubFile Nexus" for file sharing (seems to be through Georgia Tech!!). For those of you currently using ATN, is Pearson participating via ATN too? Thanks in advance! Best, Ramya Ramya Karthikeyan Alternative Format Specialist UCLA Center for Accessible Education ________________________________ From: PubFile Nexus > Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 12:01 PM To: Karthikeyan, Ramya > Subject: Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier with PubFile Nexus [https://mcusercontent.com/eb7a2c7372bebcf15894a40a3/images/ec05c137-314c-e911-26b6-9ac491518114.png] Pearson Now Fulfilling Requests for Textbook Files via PubFile Nexus [https://mcusercontent.com/eb7a2c7372bebcf15894a40a3/images/50c87c0b-51c1-4d01-7368-ad09bab8fdb8.jpg] Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier Sign up for your free PubFile Nexus account TODAY PubFile Nexus streamlines the process of requesting textbook files for students with print-related disabilities. The vast majority of requests that you place to Pearson on PubFile Nexus will be fulfilled immediately, and you can even send a link to the file directly to the student! 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Steven Kolberg, MA Florida SouthWestern State College Office of Information Technology Senior Coordinator Accessibility and LMS Administration Phone: (239) 432-6774 or X16774 Email: Steven.Bianco@FSW.edu Schedule with Me on Teams Follow the Florida State EIT Consortium on twitter and LinkedIn Florida SouthWestern State College, an equal access institution, prohibits discrimination in its employment, programs and activities based on race, sex, gender identity, age, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, disability, pregnancy, sexual orientation, marital status, genetic information or veteran status. Questions pertaining to educational equity, equal access or equal opportunity should be addressed to the College?s Title IX Coordinator/Equity Officer: Angie Snyder; Room A-106A; 8099 College Parkway SW, Fort Myers, FL 33919; (239) 489-9051; equity@fsw.edu. FSW online anonymous reporting www.fsw.edu/report. Inquiries/complaints can be filed with the Title IX Coordinator/Equity Officer online, in person, via mail, via email, or with the US Department of Education, Office of Civil Rights, Atlanta Office: 61 Forsyth St. SW Suite 19T70, Atlanta, GA 30303-8927. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karthikeyan, Ramya via athen-list Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 4:04 PM To: Susan Kelmer >; Access Technology Higher Education Network >; Karthikeyan, Ramya > Subject: Re: [Athen] Fw: Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier with PubFile Nexus CAUTION: Please Be Aware - This Email Originated Outside of FSW Does this collaboration between Georgia Tech and Peasrson (with invite for other publishers to join PubFile) mean that it is vying to be an alternative to ATN and EMMA? Just curious if anyone has any inside scoop ? Best, Ramya ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Karthikeyan, Ramya via athen-list > Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 12:34 PM To: Susan Kelmer >; Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] Fw: Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier with PubFile Nexus Great, thank you Susan!! Ramya Karthikeyan Alternative Format Specialist UCLA Center for Accessible Education 310-825-1501 (CAE line) http://www.cae.ucla.edu/ ________________________________ From: Susan Kelmer > Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 12:32 PM To: Karthikeyan, Ramya >; Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: RE: [Athen] Fw: Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier with PubFile Nexus No, Pearson is not on their list of publishers. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Health and Wellness Services T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image003.png@01DB7658.A968AA10] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you?ve received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Karthikeyan, Ramya via athen-list Sent: Monday, February 3, 2025 1:32 PM To: ATHEN-list Mailing List > Subject: [Athen] Fw: Getting Publisher Files from Pearson Just Got Easier with PubFile Nexus [External email - use caution] Hello! We are still in the process of having our legal dept. approving the new ATN agreement. In the meantime, I received an email that Pearson is starting to use "PubFile Nexus" for file sharing (seems to be through Georgia Tech!!). For those of you currently using ATN, is Pearson participating via ATN too? Thanks in advance! 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It has DOCX exporting and creates LaTeX you can copy and paste into Canvas. Had this issue with a blind Grad student in GIS working with genome equations and we had to figure out how to make it readable to their screenreader. The book was available through a web page created by the professor, and we played with screenreader configurations to announce a beep/click to indicate capital letters. Best, Joshua Hori Accessible Technology Coordinator Information Educational Technology Academic Technology Services 50 Hutchison Dr. Davis, CA 95616 530-752-2439 Schedule a meeting via Calendly From: athen-list > on behalf of Norwich, Lorraine via athen-list > Date: Monday, February 3, 2025 at 1:48?PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Data Science notation Hi We have a student who are doing Data Science who need to have their documentation OCR?d to be read with Jaws. Does anyone have any tips or tricks on how to do the scientific notation. I do not want to start using LaTeX so any other ideas would be great. Thanks Lorraine Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS Assistant Director of Disability & Access Services 25 Buick Street 3rd Floor, Boston MA 02215 lnorwich@bu.edu (email) 617-353-3658 (vox) 617-353-9646 (fax) www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Mon Feb 3 14:34:29 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (normajean.brand via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] UCSF is hiring! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: /mind blown! Joshua, has it really been 20 years? It seems like only 10. ? NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Joshua Hori via athen-list Sent: Friday, January 31, 2025 3:36 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] UCSF is hiring! [CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Houston Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe] Hello All, Sharing with the community. As a note, all of my jobs started off as 2 year contracts and I?m still here 20 years later. UCSF is hiring two more positions for our Digital Accessibility Compliance Project team. Digital Accessibility Analyst (Bus Sys Anl 3, 2-year term) We are looking for a dedicated and knowledgeable Digital Accessibility Analyst to enhance the accessibility of UCSF?s content and systems. In this role, you will be a key advocate for accessibility, ensuring our digital content, platforms, and tools are inclusive for users with disabilities, meeting WCAG (Web Content Accessibility Guidelines) and ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) standards. Your work will play a critical role in making our digital content inclusive and accessible to all users. https://sjobs.brassring.com/TGnewUI/Search/home/HomeWithPreLoad?partnerid=6495&siteid=5861&PageType=JobDetails&jobid=3635968 Technical Procurement Analyst (Procurement Anl 4, 2-year term) We are seeking a dedicated and detail-oriented Technical Procurement Analyst with a focus on digital accessibility. The successful candidate will play a crucial role in ensuring that all procured digital products and services meet accessibility standards and contribute to our mission of inclusivity. This role requires a blend of technical proficiency, procurement expertise, and a deep understanding of digital accessibility standards and best practices. https://sjobs.brassring.com/TGnewUI/Search/home/HomeWithPreLoad?partnerid=6495&siteid=5861&PageType=JobDetails&jobid=3636000 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Mon Feb 3 15:31:19 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Joshua Hori via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] UCSF is hiring! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: DangIt, I?ve aged myself. Lol, you?re right, I meant *cough* 10. Where?s my Men in Black memory eraser thing-a-ma-bob, does it work via email? Look into the light please? [See this light? Yes, look into the light of the stick I?m holding. I?m now 10 years younger with this simple trick and you will not recall any other details, oh wait, UCSF has 2 positions open.] ~Joshua From: normajean.brand Date: Monday, February 3, 2025 at 2:34?PM To: Joshua Hori , Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: UCSF is hiring! /mind blown! Joshua, has it really been 20 years? It seems like only 10. ? NJ From: athen-list On Behalf Of Joshua Hori via athen-list Sent: Friday, January 31, 2025 3:36 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] UCSF is hiring! [CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Houston Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe] Hello All, Sharing with the community. As a note, all of my jobs started off as 2 year contracts and I?m still here 10 years later. UCSF is hiring two more positions for our Digital Accessibility Compliance Project team. Digital Accessibility Analyst (Bus Sys Anl 3, 2-year term) We are looking for a dedicated and knowledgeable Digital Accessibility Analyst to enhance the accessibility of UCSF?s content and systems. In this role, you will be a key advocate for accessibility, ensuring our digital content, platforms, and tools are inclusive for users with disabilities, meeting WCAG (Web Content Accessibility Guidelines) and ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) standards. Your work will play a critical role in making our digital content inclusive and accessible to all users. https://sjobs.brassring.com/TGnewUI/Search/home/HomeWithPreLoad?partnerid=6495&siteid=5861&PageType=JobDetails&jobid=3635968 Technical Procurement Analyst (Procurement Anl 4, 2-year term) We are seeking a dedicated and detail-oriented Technical Procurement Analyst with a focus on digital accessibility. The successful candidate will play a crucial role in ensuring that all procured digital products and services meet accessibility standards and contribute to our mission of inclusivity. This role requires a blend of technical proficiency, procurement expertise, and a deep understanding of digital accessibility standards and best practices. https://sjobs.brassring.com/TGnewUI/Search/home/HomeWithPreLoad?partnerid=6495&siteid=5861&PageType=JobDetails&jobid=3636000 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 195298 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Tue Feb 4 06:38:31 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Norwich, Lorraine via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] FW: Reformatting for Lecture Quizzes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Edla worked on this yesterday but wants it to be set up differently. Also please can you find the extra credit in the DS 110. Fine if you can not I will get it to you later. Thanks Lorraine From: Akliesia Teshome Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 12:23 AM To: Norwich, Lorraine Subject: Reformatting for Lecture Quizzes Hi Lourane, I am reattaching the lecture quizzes because I need them in an organized format. Each quiz is for each lecture, and in order to submit them for their respective lectures, it would help if each quiz was organized per lecture. The pdf should be a reference and hopefully I can have this by the end of this week. I've already done the first lecture quiz so no need to change the text, just the organization. For instance, if you could put each lecture quiz in a folder with the individual files that would be helpful. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks Lorraine From: Akliesia Teshome > Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2025 12:23 AM To: Norwich, Lorraine > Subject: Reformatting for Lecture Quizzes Hi Lourane, I am reattaching the lecture quizzes because I need them in an organized format. Each quiz is for each lecture, and in order to submit them for their respective lectures, it would help if each quiz was organized per lecture. The pdf should be a reference and hopefully I can have this by the end of this week. I've already done the first lecture quiz so no need to change the text, just the organization. For instance, if you could put each lecture quiz in a folder with the individual files that would be helpful. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Tue Feb 4 06:57:31 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Bishop, Jeff - (jeffbis) via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] this look extremely fascinating ... 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URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Wed Feb 5 02:39:38 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Matthew Deeprose via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] =?windows-1252?q?Advancing_Digital_Accessibility=3A_From_?= =?windows-1252?q?Strategy_to_Practice_in_Higher_Education_-_International?= =?windows-1252?q?_Ally_User_Group_=96_27_February_2025?= Message-ID: [With apologies for cross-posting] Ever wondered how to make digital accessibility less of a mountain to climb? Join us for an eye-opening event where our speakers from Tampa and Southampton share their secret weapons for institutional change and content transformation. Perfect for learning technologists and academic staff who want to turn accessibility challenges into wins - without needing a superhero cape. Join us in the International Ally User Group on Thursday 27 February 2025 at 07:00 PST / 10:00 EST / 15:00 GMT / 16:00 CET / 18:00 TRT / 19:00 GST. # Session synopses ## Advancing Accessibility in Higher Education: A Collaborative Approach Irene Sidede, Academic Accessibility Technologist, University of Tampa. ?This presentation highlights key initiatives aimed at fostering accessible and inclusive learning environments in higher education. Participants will explore strategies to empower faculty through a combination of cohort collaborations, training programs, and personalized support. Key Topics Include: * Faculty Cohorts: Collaborative efforts with instructional designers to integrate inclusive design practices into Canvas courses and boost student motivation through interactive activities. * Academic Accessibility Course: Introducing a mandatory course to equip faculty with foundational accessibility knowledge. * Course Reviews: Regular semester reviews of faculty courses, with the goal of achieving an 80% accessibility compliance score to meet institutional standards. * Training Sessions: Themed and engaging workshops on tools like ALLY and techniques for file remediation, using innovative themes such as "The Universe of Universal Design for Learning." * One-on-One Support: Personalized sessions tailored to specific courses, offering a hands-on approach to accessibility challenges. Through these initiatives, this presentation will showcase a roadmap for driving meaningful progress in accessibility across higher education institutions.? ## Is 'plus one' enough? Addressing accessibility challenges in legacy resources Anna Ruff, Learning Designer, University of Southampton. ?Discover practical strategies for updating legacy learning resources, overcoming common accessibility challenges, and fostering sustainable content creation. Learn how small, incremental changes can significantly improve user experience and accessibility, within real world constraints of time and resource. This presentation will focus on legacy content created in Articulate Storyline.? # Sign up or watch the recording Find sign-up and joining details on the Ally Community site: https://usergroup.ally.ac/content/perma?id=64422 # Missed an earlier session? If you missed a previous session, all recordings and slide decks are available at https://tinyurl.com/AllyUserGroupSessions Hope to see you there! 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We are embarking on our development of the AIM 5.0 Alt Formats and could use some examples of how you've configured it to work with your workflow. We do more handouts, worksheets, and lecture slides, than we do full textbooks, but the AIM Alt Text module seems to be primarily built for textbook requests and fulfillment. If you are willing to share an outline, or flow chart of your AIM configuration, it would help us understand the capabilities. You can email me off list if you don't feel comfortable sharing this information so widely. Thanks in advance for helping with our transition to the AIM platform. Best regards, *Sean Loraas* Accessibility Technician Alt Text & Media Department Access & Disability Support Austin Community College Email: sloraas@austincc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Fri Feb 7 13:35:07 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Ali Steenis via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] AIM customization for Alt Format Production In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, We create a custom ISBN for the readings needed for a specific class. Then we will create specific assignments for individual readings or handout conversions that can be assigned to different staff. This has worked well for us in V4 and V5 so far. If you have any other questions, I?m happy to be a resource. Warmly, Ali Steenis Pronouns: she/hers Alternative Formats Access Specialist, Disability Resource Center (DRC) 3000 Landerholm Circle SE, Room U001 Bellevue, WA 98007 Phone: (425)-564-2605 TTY: (425)-564-6189 FAX: (425)-564-5110 drc@bellevuecollege.edu www.bellevuecollege.edu/drc This email and any files transmitted may contain confidential information as protected by the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA), 20 USC ? 1232g and/or Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. ? 2510-2521. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution is prohibited. Furthermore, if you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately by telephone or return e-mail and completely delete this message from your system. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Sean Loraas via athen-list Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 1:23 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] AIM customization for Alt Format Production CAUTION: This email originated from outside Bellevue College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you validate the sender and know the content is safe. If you are unsure, contact the Service Desk at x4357 (425-564-4357) or email servicedesk@bellevuecollege.edu. ATHEN Community, If your college disability office uses AIM and you have managed to design a usable Alternative Format Production module, I would love to hear from you. We are embarking on our development of the AIM 5.0 Alt Formats and could use some examples of how you've configured it to work with your workflow. We do more handouts, worksheets, and lecture slides, than we do full textbooks, but the AIM Alt Text module seems to be primarily built for textbook requests and fulfillment. If you are willing to share an outline, or flow chart of your AIM configuration, it would help us understand the capabilities. You can email me off list if you don't feel comfortable sharing this information so widely. Thanks in advance for helping with our transition to the AIM platform. Best regards, Sean Loraas Accessibility Technician Alt Text & Media Department Access & Disability Support Austin Community College Email: sloraas@austincc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Fri Feb 7 16:11:24 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] AIM customization for Alt Format Production In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We?re just prepping to updgrade to 5, also interested to hear how people have set up their Alt Text Modules in AIM V5. In the past I haven?t given student editors access to AIM, because I couldn?t restrict them to just the Alt text, and didn?t feel comfortable with them having access to case notes and medical documentation. So we haven?t really used the work assignments, everything has just been a work order. Ali, for the work assignments are staff able to self assign? For weekly readings, I usually do a work order for each week, but that?s in Version 4, but sounds like the work assignments might be a better solution in V5? Thanks, Eric Matson | Assistant Director - Assistive Technology & Accommodation Operations Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Message me on Teams Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Treasurer ? Idaho Partnership on Higher Education and Disability Pronouns: He / Him / His From: athen-list On Behalf Of Ali Steenis via athen-list Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 1:35 PM To: Sean Loraas ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] AIM customization for Alt Format Production Hello, We create a custom ISBN for the readings needed for a specific class. Then we will create specific assignments for individual readings or handout conversions that can be assigned to different staff. This has worked well for us in V4 and Hello, We create a custom ISBN for the readings needed for a specific class. Then we will create specific assignments for individual readings or handout conversions that can be assigned to different staff. This has worked well for us in V4 and V5 so far. If you have any other questions, I?m happy to be a resource. Warmly, Ali Steenis Pronouns: she/hers Alternative Formats Access Specialist, Disability Resource Center (DRC) 3000 Landerholm Circle SE, Room U001 Bellevue, WA 98007 Phone: (425)-564-2605 TTY: (425)-564-6189 FAX: (425)-564-5110 drc@bellevuecollege.edu www.bellevuecollege.edu/drc This email and any files transmitted may contain confidential information as protected by the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA), 20 USC ? 1232g and/or Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. ? 2510-2521. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution is prohibited. Furthermore, if you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately by telephone or return e-mail and completely delete this message from your system. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Sean Loraas via athen-list Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 1:23 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] AIM customization for Alt Format Production CAUTION: This email originated from outside Bellevue College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you validate the sender and know the content is safe. If you are unsure, contact the Service Desk at x4357 (425-564-4357) or email servicedesk@bellevuecollege.edu. ATHEN Community, If your college disability office uses AIM and you have managed to design a usable Alternative Format Production module, I would love to hear from you. We are embarking on our development of the AIM 5.0 Alt Formats and could use some examples of how you've configured it to work with your workflow. We do more handouts, worksheets, and lecture slides, than we do full textbooks, but the AIM Alt Text module seems to be primarily built for textbook requests and fulfillment. If you are willing to share an outline, or flow chart of your AIM configuration, it would help us understand the capabilities. You can email me off list if you don't feel comfortable sharing this information so widely. Thanks in advance for helping with our transition to the AIM platform. Best regards, Sean Loraas Accessibility Technician Alt Text & Media Department Access & Disability Support Austin Community College Email: sloraas@austincc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Mon Feb 10 12:34:30 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Ali Steenis via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] AIM customization for Alt Format Production In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Eric, Yes, staff can self assign assignments. Separating readings by week is also a smart idea. We like to keep readings for a class under one "book" entry so it easier to track from quarter to quarter. This way if another student needs readings for the same class in another quarter, we can cross check if the readings are the same as the syllabus to save conversion labor and time. Please let me know if you have any questions. Warmly, Ali Steenis Pronouns: she/hers Alternative Formats Access Specialist, Disability Resource Center (DRC) 3000 Landerholm Circle SE, Room U001 Bellevue, WA 98007 Phone: (425)-564-2605 TTY: (425)-564-6189 FAX: (425)-564-5110 drc@bellevuecollege.edu www.bellevuecollege.edu/drc This email and any files transmitted may contain confidential information as protected by the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA), 20 USC ? 1232g and/or Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. ? 2510-2521. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution is prohibited. Furthermore, if you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately by telephone or return e-mail and completely delete this message from your system. From: Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 4:11 PM To: Ali Steenis ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: RE: [Athen] AIM customization for Alt Format Production You don't often get email from ecmatson@uidaho.edu. Learn why this is important CAUTION: This email originated from outside Bellevue College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you validate the sender and know the content is safe. If you are unsure, contact the Service Desk at x4357 (425-564-4357) or email servicedesk@bellevuecollege.edu. We're just prepping to updgrade to 5, also interested to hear how people have set up their Alt Text Modules in AIM V5. In the past I haven't given student editors access to AIM, because I couldn't restrict them to just the Alt text, and didn't feel comfortable with them having access to case notes and medical documentation. So we haven't really used the work assignments, everything has just been a work order. Ali, for the work assignments are staff able to self assign? For weekly readings, I usually do a work order for each week, but that's in Version 4, but sounds like the work assignments might be a better solution in V5? Thanks, Eric Matson | Assistant Director - Assistive Technology & Accommodation Operations Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Message me on Teams Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Treasurer - Idaho Partnership on Higher Education and Disability Pronouns: He / Him / His From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Ali Steenis via athen-list Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 1:35 PM To: Sean Loraas >; Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] AIM customization for Alt Format Production Hello, We create a custom ISBN for the readings needed for a specific class. Then we will create specific assignments for individual readings or handout conversions that can be assigned to different staff. This has worked well for us in V4 and Hello, We create a custom ISBN for the readings needed for a specific class. Then we will create specific assignments for individual readings or handout conversions that can be assigned to different staff. This has worked well for us in V4 and V5 so far. If you have any other questions, I'm happy to be a resource. Warmly, Ali Steenis Pronouns: she/hers Alternative Formats Access Specialist, Disability Resource Center (DRC) 3000 Landerholm Circle SE, Room U001 Bellevue, WA 98007 Phone: (425)-564-2605 TTY: (425)-564-6189 FAX: (425)-564-5110 drc@bellevuecollege.edu www.bellevuecollege.edu/drc This email and any files transmitted may contain confidential information as protected by the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA), 20 USC ? 1232g and/or Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. ? 2510-2521. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution is prohibited. Furthermore, if you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately by telephone or return e-mail and completely delete this message from your system. From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Sean Loraas via athen-list Sent: Friday, February 7, 2025 1:23 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] AIM customization for Alt Format Production CAUTION: This email originated from outside Bellevue College. Do not click links or open attachments unless you validate the sender and know the content is safe. If you are unsure, contact the Service Desk at x4357 (425-564-4357) or email servicedesk@bellevuecollege.edu. ATHEN Community, If your college disability office uses AIM and you have managed to design a usable Alternative Format Production module, I would love to hear from you. We are embarking on our development of the AIM 5.0 Alt Formats and could use some examples of how you've configured it to work with your workflow. We do more handouts, worksheets, and lecture slides, than we do full textbooks, but the AIM Alt Text module seems to be primarily built for textbook requests and fulfillment. If you are willing to share an outline, or flow chart of your AIM configuration, it would help us understand the capabilities. You can email me off list if you don't feel comfortable sharing this information so widely. Thanks in advance for helping with our transition to the AIM platform. Best regards, Sean Loraas Accessibility Technician Alt Text & Media Department Access & Disability Support Austin Community College Email: sloraas@austincc.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Tue Feb 11 17:31:57 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Norwich, Lorraine via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] Gradescope and Jaws Message-ID: Hi I am working with a student who has grade scope in her Blackboard course. They are a Jaws user. Can anyone comment or share information on how they have found the accessibility of grade scope and how Jaws works with it. Thanking you in advance. Best, Lorraine Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS Assistant Director of Disability & Access Services 25 Buick Street 3rd Floor, Boston MA 02215 lnorwich@bu.edu (email) 617-353-3658 (vox) 617-353-9646 (fax) www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Wed Feb 12 11:29:39 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Steve Green via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] this look extremely fascinating ... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't like to be too critical when people put the effort in to create things like this, but I used it to tag a simple 1-page PDF and it did a really horrible job. I could forgive it for tagging a two-column layout with bold headings as a table. But the columns contained bulleted lists that did not get tagged as lists. The worst thing was the insane mess it made of a couple of links. There was only one Link tag, but five Link-OBJR tags (there must be the same number of each)! There were four Reference tags nested inside each other (which is invalid) when there shouldn't have been any because the links are external. [cid:image003.jpg@01DB7D84.73C4BD30] This doesn't encourage me to use it again. I can understand it failing to recognise objects correctly, but it really shouldn't be able to produce invalid output. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: athen-list On Behalf Of Bishop, Jeff - (jeffbis) via athen-list Sent: 04 February 2025 14:58 To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] this look extremely fascinating ... PDF Accessibility: The Ohio State University https://smartchallenges.asu.edu/challenges/pdf-accessibility-ohio-state-university -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: athen-list On Behalf Of Norwich, Lorraine via athen-list Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 10:59 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Math major who need speech to text EXTERNAL: Use caution. Good Morning, Hope all is well. We have a student who is a math major and has broken both arms. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to help and what speech to text would work the best for them. Thanks Lorraine Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS Assistant Director of Disability & Access Services 25 Buick Street 3rd Floor, Boston MA 02215 lnorwich@bu.edu (email) 617-353-3658 (vox) 617-353-9646 (fax) www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Fri Feb 14 11:42:29 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (normajean.brand via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] Abby fine reader training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Interested as well! NJ NJ Brand, (she/her/hers; Dyslexic, ADHD, PsA, Fibro, Migraine- Let?s destigmatize disabilities!) Norma Jean Brand (hear my name) BAAS-Psych, ATAC, Assistive Technology Technician Center for Learning Innovation ? T: 713.718.5604 ? F:713.718.5430 ? HCCS ? Counseling & Ability Services ? AT@HCCS ? Teaching & Learning Center for Innovation Accessibility shouldn?t be an afterthought - let?s make it a priority together. ENCOURAGE INCLUSIVITY, ENABLE CHANGE, ELEVATE EQUALITY. Accessibility and Inclusion are shared institutional responsibilities. #ally #highered #inclusion [Houston Community College logo] Confidential - Do Not Copy or Distribute: This message may contain confidential information. It is intended only for the individuals(s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient (or have received this email in error) please notify the sender immediately. This message may also be legally privileged. If you are not the named addressee(s), you must delete this email immediately. Do not disseminate, distribute, or copy. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Norwich, Lorraine via athen-list Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 12:01 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Abby fine reader training [CAUTION: This email originated from outside of Houston Community College System. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe] Hi I have a lot of new student workers to train in our Etext lab. Does anyone have any Abby fine reader training manuals you have put together or reference on how to use Abby fine reader to help train them. Thanking you in advance. Best, Lorraine Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS Assistant Director of Disability & Access Services 25 Buick Street 3rd Floor, Boston MA 02215 lnorwich@bu.edu (email) 617-353-3658 (vox) 617-353-9646 (fax) www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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At least, according to Murray Sargent, the developer of this capability. If that is true, this would essentially be a "no cost" method...but I have no idea what the usability of this method may be and how easy it is to learn. Math Dictation - Math in Office I should add that I have not heard back from people who actually use math dictation in Office. I have also heard of people who use Dragon with MathType. Because MathType has keyboard shortcuts for all commands, it is technically possible to train Dragon to recognize these commands and build math expressions. I did know someone, years ago, who did this. However, I suspect this path takes a long ramp-up and the broken arm will likely be mended before one become proficient using that method. Just a few thoughts. Hope they are helpful. --Steve Noble steve.noble@louisville.edu 502-969-3088 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Norwich, Lorraine via athen-list Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 12:59 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Math major who need speech to text CAUTION: This email originated from outside of our organization. Do not click links, open attachments, or respond unless you recognize the sender's email address and know the contents are safe. Good Morning, Hope all is well. We have a student who is a math major and has broken both arms. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to help and what speech to text would work the best for them. Thanks Lorraine Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS Assistant Director of Disability & Access Services 25 Buick Street 3rd Floor, Boston MA 02215 lnorwich@bu.edu (email) 617-353-3658 (vox) 617-353-9646 (fax) www.bu.edu/disability (website) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Fri Feb 14 12:49:05 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Vanessa Garza via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] Abby fine reader training In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't know how to reply to people on this haha - but I am going to use Accessibility Guy - ABBY Fine Reader Video Playlist. I haven't watched the videos yet but he has videos on other accessibility topics so hopefully these are helpful too. 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Liza Liza Eldred cherniwchanl@macewan.ca Assistive Technology Specialist II Assistive Computer Technology Service Access and Disability Resources MacEwan University 7-166D, 10700 - 104 Avenue Edmonton, AB (780) 497-5826 Fax: 780-497-4018 https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.macewan.ca%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cvanessa.garza%40utsa.edu%7C6468e36ed79b4bb5e78a08dd4d32a77f%7C3a228dfbc64744cb88357b20617fc906%7C0%7C0%7C638751602145135178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DuPwTcmzpKG0oskDtqJ4NYah6ADTiVhdcT%2BZZsUGxZA%3D&reserved=0 This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Please contact me immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Please consider the environment before printing this email. From: athen-list On Behalf Of Norwich, Lorraine via athen-list Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 10:59 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Math major who need speech to text EXTERNAL: Use caution.> Good Morning, Hope all is well. We have a student who is a math major and has broken both arms. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to help and what speech to text would work the best for them. Thanks Lorraine Lorraine S. 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Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe] Hi I have a lot of new student workers to train in our Etext lab. Does anyone have any Abby fine reader training manuals you have put together or reference on how to use Abby fine reader to help train them. Thanking you in advance. Best, Lorraine Lorraine S. 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URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Fri Feb 14 12:58:29 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (foreigntype@gmail.com via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] Math major who need speech to text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Steve, Dragon with MathType & Scientific Notebook was --past tense-- a very usable AT combo to dictate math up through the highest levels, including graphing and physics. Metroplex Voice computing shut it down a couple of years pre-covid because they could not find anyone to rewrite/update the coding in Scientific Notebook. It was a brilliant solution which sadly no longer at our disposal. My input FWIW Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 12:22?PM Noble, Stephen via athen-list < athen-list@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Math dictation is about like a mission to Mars. Well...perhaps that is a > bit of a stretch, but shall I say it is not so simple. > > The solution with the least investment in training (but not without costs) > is Equatio. > Equatio - Equation Editor to Create Accessible Digital Math | Texthelp > > > However, Equatio may not as useful in higher level colleges mathematics > courses. However, I have not done a real evaluation of how well it holds up > in advanced mathematics. > > It is also "technically" possible to dictate mathematics using some > versions of Microsoft Word. At least, according to Murray Sargent, the > developer of this capability. If that is true, this would essentially be a > "no cost" method...but I have no idea what the usability of this method may > be and how easy it is to learn. > Math Dictation - Math in Office > > > I should add that I have not heard back from people who actually use math > dictation in Office. > > I have also heard of people who use Dragon with MathType. Because MathType > has keyboard shortcuts for all commands, it is technically possible to > train Dragon to recognize these commands and build math expressions. I did > know someone, years ago, who did this. However, I suspect this path takes a > long ramp-up and the broken arm will likely be mended before one become > proficient using that method. > > Just a few thoughts. Hope they are helpful. > > --Steve Noble > steve.noble@louisville.edu > 502-969-3088 > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Norwich, Lorraine via athen-list > *Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2025 12:59 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] Math major who need speech to text > > > *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of our organization. Do not > click links, open attachments, or respond unless you recognize the sender's > email address and know the contents are safe. > > Good Morning, > > > > Hope all is well. We have a student who is a math major and has broken > both arms. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to help and what speech to > text would work the best for them. > > > > Thanks > > > > Lorraine > > > > > > Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS > > Assistant Director of Disability & Access Services > > 25 Buick Street 3rd Floor, Boston MA 02215 > > lnorwich@bu.edu (email) > > 617-353-3658 (vox) > > 617-353-9646 (fax) > > www.bu.edu/disability (website) > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Fri Feb 14 13:13:40 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Noble, Stephen via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] Math major who need speech to text In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Wink, Yes...indeed. One can still even find the old support manual online: McClella_OT_0620_1U And...just like how we got human beings safely to the Moon in the late 60s early 70s...and then lost all the technical knowledge and capabilities...software that once could do great things eventually fades from our grasp. Maybe one day AI will simply keep all software current without human intervention. Something out of Jules Vernes, perhaps. ? --Steve Noble steve.noble@louisville.edu 502-969-3088 ________________________________ From: foreigntype@gmail.com Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 3:58 PM To: Noble, Stephen ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Math major who need speech to text CAUTION: This email originated from outside of our organization. Do not click links, open attachments, or respond unless you recognize the sender's email address and know the contents are safe. Steve, Dragon with MathType & Scientific Notebook was --past tense-- a very usable AT combo to dictate math up through the highest levels, including graphing and physics. Metroplex Voice computing shut it down a couple of years pre-covid because they could not find anyone to rewrite/update the coding in Scientific Notebook. It was a brilliant solution which sadly no longer at our disposal. My input FWIW Wink Wink Harner Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production The Foreign Type Portland OR foreigntype@gmail.com This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata . On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 12:22?PM Noble, Stephen via athen-list > wrote: Math dictation is about like a mission to Mars. Well...perhaps that is a bit of a stretch, but shall I say it is not so simple. The solution with the least investment in training (but not without costs) is Equatio. Equatio - Equation Editor to Create Accessible Digital Math | Texthelp However, Equatio may not as useful in higher level colleges mathematics courses. However, I have not done a real evaluation of how well it holds up in advanced mathematics. It is also "technically" possible to dictate mathematics using some versions of Microsoft Word. At least, according to Murray Sargent, the developer of this capability. If that is true, this would essentially be a "no cost" method...but I have no idea what the usability of this method may be and how easy it is to learn. Math Dictation - Math in Office I should add that I have not heard back from people who actually use math dictation in Office. I have also heard of people who use Dragon with MathType. Because MathType has keyboard shortcuts for all commands, it is technically possible to train Dragon to recognize these commands and build math expressions. I did know someone, years ago, who did this. However, I suspect this path takes a long ramp-up and the broken arm will likely be mended before one become proficient using that method. Just a few thoughts. Hope they are helpful. --Steve Noble steve.noble@louisville.edu 502-969-3088 ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Norwich, Lorraine via athen-list > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2025 12:59 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Math major who need speech to text CAUTION: This email originated from outside of our organization. Do not click links, open attachments, or respond unless you recognize the sender's email address and know the contents are safe. Good Morning, Hope all is well. We have a student who is a math major and has broken both arms. Does anyone have any thoughts on how to help and what speech to text would work the best for them. Thanks Lorraine Lorraine S. 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Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his) Accessible Technology Assistant Student Disability Center University of California-Davis Davis, CA 95616 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Ione Priest via athen-list Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2025 6:57 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] CART alternatives Hello all, We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with Otter for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT department is eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to security concerns and has asked that we explore other options in its stead. Are any of you using tools as an alternative to CART? If so, I'd greatly appreciate any insights you can offer! 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Are student requests driving the need for in class CART service? Transcriptions from so many Apps/sources are very close to or equal to the more expensive CART service output. Cart service providers are rare, costly and are not instantly available. What is the rationale for using human CART services over AI driven apps and services that bundle the transcription with note taking, summaries, etc? Eileen Berger On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 11:46?AM Sebastian M Niles via athen-list < athen-list@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Hello Ione > > My university has used remote captioners in the past, which can help fill > the gaps for any students who needs human edited captions. We've also used > Ava (https://www.ava.me/), which is a blend of human captioning and Otter > style automatic captioning. Students can use the automatic captioning, and > then request (or schedule) a human captioner for a class. The human edited > captions requires more money though. > > Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his) > Accessible Technology Assistant > Student Disability Center > University of California-Davis > Davis, CA 95616 > > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Ione Priest via athen-list > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2025 6:57 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] CART alternatives > > Hello all, > > We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper > alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with Otter > for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT department is > eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to security concerns and > has asked that we explore other options in its stead. Are any of you using > tools as an alternative to CART? 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Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his) Accessible Technology Assistant Student Disability Center University of California-Davis Davis, CA 95616 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Ione Priest via athen-list Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2025 6:57 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] CART alternatives Hello all, We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with Otter for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT department is eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to security concerns and has asked that we explore other options in its stead. Are any of you using tools as an alternative to CART? If so, I'd greatly appreciate any insights you can offer! Thanks, Ione Priest (they/she) | Assistant Director of Accessibility Technology and Testing CPACC, DHS Certified Trusted Tester Access Center Metropolitan State University of Denver 303-615-0200 (office) http://www.msudenver.edu/access This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 13:58:28 -0500 From: Eileen Berger via athen-list To: Sebastian M Niles , Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] CART alternatives Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi , I have a question about human captioning/CART. Are student requests driving the need for in class CART service? Transcriptions from so many Apps/sources are very close to or equal to the more expensive CART service output. Cart service providers are rare, costly and are not instantly available. What is the rationale for using human CART services over AI driven apps and services that bundle the transcription with note taking, summaries, etc? Eileen Berger On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 11:46?AM Sebastian M Niles via athen-list < athen-list@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Hello Ione > > My university has used remote captioners in the past, which can help > fill the gaps for any students who needs human edited captions. We've > also used Ava > (https://www/ > .ava.me%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cerika.wise%40uta.edu%7C343779c6777946987ef90 > 8dd50573241%7C5cdc5b43d7be4caa8173729e3b0a62d9%7C0%7C0%7C638755057627658097%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=zBCO7GClpj59J2MhA46MAej8YVTInpTDVA%2FlWFBl364%3D&reserved=0), which is a blend of human captioning and Otter style automatic captioning. Students can use the automatic captioning, and then request (or schedule) a human captioner for a class. The human edited captions requires more money though. > > Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his) > Accessible Technology Assistant > Student Disability Center > University of California-Davis > Davis, CA 95616 > > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Ione Priest via athen-list > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2025 6:57 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] CART alternatives > > Hello all, > > We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper > alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with > Otter for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT > department is eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to > security concerns and has asked that we explore other options in its > stead. Are any of you using tools as an alternative to CART? 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I am copying the blurb AHEAD put out for Tailo below. Eileen Berger "Topic: Sponsored Webinar (Tailo by Estendio): AI for Inclusion- Empowering Access Without Compromising Integrity Description: As AI becomes increasingly integrated into education, it offers powerful strategies for making learning more inclusive and accessible. However, it also raises important questions about academic integrity and ethical boundaries.In this webinar, with Jennifer Murchison, Executive Director, Universal Access & Inclusion and ADA Coordinator, will explore how disability services professionals and educators can harness AI to support diverse learners while maintaining academic standards. Topics include: - Practical strategies for using AI as an addition to an accommodation tool - Differentiating between ethical uses of AI and practices that may compromise academic integrity - Discuss AI tools such as Tailo that promote efficiency in reading through AI implementation as well as supporting accessibility and inclusion needs for reading tasks If you are part of a disability services team or student/academic success, and want to start building your playbook on how AI can support disabled students then don?t miss out on this invaluable session. This event will be recorded and made available on the 'Sponsored Webinars' page after the live webinar has finished." On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 4:53?PM Wise, Erika via athen-list < athen-list@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Hi Ione, > > My campus just switched from Otter to Glean. Both apps work similarly > though Glean's interface looks different. I'm still rolling this out to > campus so I don't have any testimonials to pass along but feel free to > contact me off-list. > > ERIKA WISE, MS, CRC > Assistant Director > Alternative Testing Center & Adaptive Technology > erika.wise@uta.edu > Office: (817) 272-3420 > @utasarcenter > 601 S. Nedderman Dr. > University Hall 104 > Arlington, Texas 76019 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: athen-list On > Behalf Of via athen-list > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2025 2:01 PM > To: athen-list@u.washington.edu > Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 229, Issue 15 > > [External] > > Send athen-list mailing list submissions to > athen-list@u.washington.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > athen-list-owner@mailman12.u.washington.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. CART alternatives (Ione Priest via athen-list) > 2. Re: CART alternatives (Sebastian M Niles via athen-list) > 3. Re: CART alternatives (Eileen Berger via athen-list) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:57:03 +0000 > From: Ione Priest via athen-list > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > > Subject: [Athen] CART alternatives > Message-ID: > < > SJ2PR03MB74282F9FCBC0F30DF2DE636FA5FA2@SJ2PR03MB7428.namprd03.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello all, > > We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper > alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with Otter > for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT department is > eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to security concerns and > has asked that we explore other options in its stead. Are any of you using > tools as an alternative to CART? If so, I'd greatly appreciate any insights > you can offer! > > > Thanks, > > > > Ione Priest (they/she) | Assistant Director of Accessibility Technology > and Testing > > CPACC, DHS Certified Trusted Tester > > Access Center > > Metropolitan State University of Denver > > 303-615-0200 (office) > > http://www.msudenver.edu/access > > > > This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any > unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you > are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately by > reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20250218/5006cb7e/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 16:46:16 +0000 > From: Sebastian M Niles via athen-list > To: Ione Priest , Access Technology Higher > Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] CART alternatives > Message-ID: > < > CO1PR08MB6594DB687445550D9A28D3FFBCFA2@CO1PR08MB6594.namprd08.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello Ione > > My university has used remote captioners in the past, which can help fill > the gaps for any students who needs human edited captions. We've also used > Ava (https://www.ava.me/), which is a blend of human captioning and Otter > style automatic captioning. Students can use the automatic captioning, and > then request (or schedule) a human captioner for a class. The human edited > captions requires more money though. > > Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his) > Accessible Technology Assistant > Student Disability Center > University of California-Davis > Davis, CA 95616 > > ________________________________ > From: athen-list on > behalf of Ione Priest via athen-list > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2025 6:57 AM > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > Subject: [Athen] CART alternatives > > Hello all, > > We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper > alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with Otter > for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT department is > eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to security concerns and > has asked that we explore other options in its stead. Are any of you using > tools as an alternative to CART? If so, I'd greatly appreciate any insights > you can offer! > > > Thanks, > > > > Ione Priest (they/she) | Assistant Director of Accessibility Technology > and Testing > > CPACC, DHS Certified Trusted Tester > > Access Center > > Metropolitan State University of Denver > > 303-615-0200 (office) > > http://www.msudenver.edu/access > > > > This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any > unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you > are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately by > reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/pipermail/athen-list/attachments/20250218/bd52f240/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 13:58:28 -0500 > From: Eileen Berger via athen-list > To: Sebastian M Niles , Access Technology Higher > Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] CART alternatives > Message-ID: > S3xF79VW86UrKfzjqhVQ@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi , > I have a question about human captioning/CART. Are student requests > driving the need for in class CART service? Transcriptions from so many > Apps/sources are very close to or equal to the more expensive CART service > output. Cart service providers are rare, costly and are not instantly > available. What is the rationale for using human CART services over AI > driven apps and services that bundle the transcription with note taking, > summaries, etc? > Eileen Berger > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 11:46?AM Sebastian M Niles via athen-list < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > Hello Ione > > > > My university has used remote captioners in the past, which can help > > fill the gaps for any students who needs human edited captions. We've > > also used Ava > > (https://www/ > > .ava.me%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cerika.wise%40uta.edu%7C343779c6777946987ef90 > > > 8dd50573241%7C5cdc5b43d7be4caa8173729e3b0a62d9%7C0%7C0%7C638755057627658097%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=zBCO7GClpj59J2MhA46MAej8YVTInpTDVA%2FlWFBl364%3D&reserved=0), > which is a blend of human captioning and Otter style automatic captioning. > Students can use the automatic captioning, and then request (or schedule) a > human captioner for a class. The human edited captions requires more money > though. > > > > Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his) > > Accessible Technology Assistant > > Student Disability Center > > University of California-Davis > > Davis, CA 95616 > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* athen-list on > > behalf of Ione Priest via athen-list > > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2025 6:57 AM > > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > > *Subject:* [Athen] CART alternatives > > > > Hello all, > > > > We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper > > alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with > > Otter for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT > > department is eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to > > security concerns and has asked that we explore other options in its > > stead. Are any of you using tools as an alternative to CART? If so, > > I'd greatly appreciate any insights you can offer! > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > *Ione Priest* *(they/she)* | *Assistant Director of Accessibility > > Technology and Testing* > > > > CPACC, DHS Certified Trusted Tester > > > > Access Center > > > > Metropolitan State University of Denver > > > > 303-615-0200 (office) > > > > http://www.m/ > > sudenver.edu%2Faccess&data=05%7C02%7Cerika.wise%40uta.edu%7C343779c677 > > 7946987ef908dd50573241%7C5cdc5b43d7be4caa8173729e3b0a62d9%7C0%7C0%7C63 > > 8755057627671367%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiO > > iIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C > > %7C%7C&sdata=sQKJmKrRn4Hruvr8%2ByA8xbPZCU%2FFBalp5j0mP6Vx8ZQ%3D&reserv > > ed=0 > > > > > > > > *This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use > > of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. > > Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > > prohibited. 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URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Wed Feb 19 10:59:17 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Joshua Hori via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] CART alternatives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tailo isn?t for notetaking, it?s for reading accommodations. Our Redwood SEED students are piloting it here. Best, Joshua From: athen-list on behalf of Eileen Berger via athen-list Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 8:14?AM To: Wise, Erika , Access Technology Higher Education Network Cc: athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Athen] CART alternatives Hi All, I attended the Tailo webinar sponsored by AHEAD on Feb 12 . It was interesting and may be another alternative along with GLEAN which is also AI driven and versatile.(BTW- Glean puts out great webinars and useful data on users and upgrades.) It was not billed as a CART alternative but speech to text and text to speech capability. I believe the webinar may still be available for viewing. I am copying the blurb AHEAD put out for Tailo below. Eileen Berger "Topic: Sponsored Webinar (Tailo by Estendio): AI for Inclusion- Empowering Access Without Compromising Integrity Description: As AI becomes increasingly integrated into education, it offers powerful strategies for making learning more inclusive and accessible. However, it also raises important questions about academic integrity and ethical boundaries.In this webinar, with Jennifer Murchison, Executive Director, Universal Access & Inclusion and ADA Coordinator, will explore how disability services professionals and educators can harness AI to support diverse learners while maintaining academic standards. Topics include: - Practical strategies for using AI as an addition to an accommodation tool - Differentiating between ethical uses of AI and practices that may compromise academic integrity - Discuss AI tools such as Tailo that promote efficiency in reading through AI implementation as well as supporting accessibility and inclusion needs for reading tasks If you are part of a disability services team or student/academic success, and want to start building your playbook on how AI can support disabled students then don?t miss out on this invaluable session. This event will be recorded and made available on the 'Sponsored Webinars' page after the live webinar has finished." On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 4:53?PM Wise, Erika via athen-list > wrote: Hi Ione, My campus just switched from Otter to Glean. Both apps work similarly though Glean's interface looks different. I'm still rolling this out to campus so I don't have any testimonials to pass along but feel free to contact me off-list. ERIKA WISE, MS, CRC Assistant Director Alternative Testing Center & Adaptive Technology erika.wise@uta.edu Office: (817) 272-3420 @utasarcenter 601 S. Nedderman Dr. University Hall 104 Arlington, Texas 76019 -----Original Message----- From: athen-list > On Behalf Of via athen-list Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2025 2:01 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: athen-list Digest, Vol 229, Issue 15 [External] Send athen-list mailing list submissions to athen-list@u.washington.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to athen-list-request@mailman12.u.washington.edu You can reach the person managing the list at athen-list-owner@mailman12.u.washington.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of athen-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CART alternatives (Ione Priest via athen-list) 2. Re: CART alternatives (Sebastian M Niles via athen-list) 3. Re: CART alternatives (Eileen Berger via athen-list) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 14:57:03 +0000 From: Ione Priest via athen-list > To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] CART alternatives Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello all, We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with Otter for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT department is eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to security concerns and has asked that we explore other options in its stead. Are any of you using tools as an alternative to CART? If so, I'd greatly appreciate any insights you can offer! 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Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his) Accessible Technology Assistant Student Disability Center University of California-Davis Davis, CA 95616 ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Ione Priest via athen-list > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2025 6:57 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] CART alternatives Hello all, We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with Otter for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT department is eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to security concerns and has asked that we explore other options in its stead. Are any of you using tools as an alternative to CART? If so, I'd greatly appreciate any insights you can offer! 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URL: ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 13:58:28 -0500 From: Eileen Berger via athen-list > To: Sebastian M Niles >, Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Re: [Athen] CART alternatives Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi , I have a question about human captioning/CART. Are student requests driving the need for in class CART service? Transcriptions from so many Apps/sources are very close to or equal to the more expensive CART service output. Cart service providers are rare, costly and are not instantly available. What is the rationale for using human CART services over AI driven apps and services that bundle the transcription with note taking, summaries, etc? Eileen Berger On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 11:46?AM Sebastian M Niles via athen-list < athen-list@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Hello Ione > > My university has used remote captioners in the past, which can help > fill the gaps for any students who needs human edited captions. We've > also used Ava > (https://www/ > .ava.me%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cerika.wise%40uta.edu%7C343779c6777946987ef90 > 8dd50573241%7C5cdc5b43d7be4caa8173729e3b0a62d9%7C0%7C0%7C638755057627658097%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=zBCO7GClpj59J2MhA46MAej8YVTInpTDVA%2FlWFBl364%3D&reserved=0), which is a blend of human captioning and Otter style automatic captioning. Students can use the automatic captioning, and then request (or schedule) a human captioner for a class. The human edited captions requires more money though. > > Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his) > Accessible Technology Assistant > Student Disability Center > University of California-Davis > Davis, CA 95616 > > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list > on > behalf of Ione Priest via athen-list > > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2025 6:57 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] CART alternatives > > Hello all, > > We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper > alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with > Otter for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT > department is eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to > security concerns and has asked that we explore other options in its > stead. Are any of you using tools as an alternative to CART? If so, > I'd greatly appreciate any insights you can offer! > > Thanks, > > > > *Ione Priest* *(they/she)* | *Assistant Director of Accessibility > Technology and Testing* > > CPACC, DHS Certified Trusted Tester > > Access Center > > Metropolitan State University of Denver > > 303-615-0200 (office) > > http://www.m/ > sudenver.edu%2Faccess&data=05%7C02%7Cerika.wise%40uta.edu%7C343779c677 > 7946987ef908dd50573241%7C5cdc5b43d7be4caa8173729e3b0a62d9%7C0%7C0%7C63 > 8755057627671367%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiO > iIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C > %7C%7C&sdata=sQKJmKrRn4Hruvr8%2ByA8xbPZCU%2FFBalp5j0mP6Vx8ZQ%3D&reserv > ed=0 > > > > *This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use > of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. > Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. 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Additionally, faculty are worried that full transcripts/recordings of their classes will be taken out of context and/or shared inappropriately. For students with disabilities and Access Offices, these tools do provide appropriate access. How do Access Offices resolve these competing issues with IT and Academic Affairs and still provide student access and compliance? Eileen Berger On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 11:46?AM Sebastian M Niles via athen-list < athen-list@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Hello Ione > > My university has used remote captioners in the past, which can help fill > the gaps for any students who needs human edited captions. We've also used > Ava (https://www.ava.me/), which is a blend of human captioning and Otter > style automatic captioning. Students can use the automatic captioning, and > then request (or schedule) a human captioner for a class. The human edited > captions requires more money though. > > Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his) > Accessible Technology Assistant > Student Disability Center > University of California-Davis > Davis, CA 95616 > > ------------------------------ > *From:* athen-list on > behalf of Ione Priest via athen-list > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2025 6:57 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* [Athen] CART alternatives > > Hello all, > > We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper > alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with Otter > for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT department is > eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to security concerns and > has asked that we explore other options in its stead. Are any of you using > tools as an alternative to CART? If so, I'd greatly appreciate any insights > you can offer! > > Thanks, > > > > *Ione Priest* *(they/she)* | *Assistant Director of Accessibility > Technology and Testing* > > CPACC, DHS Certified Trusted Tester > > Access Center > > Metropolitan State University of Denver > > 303-615-0200 (office) > > www.msudenver.edu/access > > > > *This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential information. Any > unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you > are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately by > reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message.* > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu > http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Would anyone have PDF files for the textbook below (they do not need to be edited or accessible as my university team works on this): Text Name: A Student's Guide to Estates in Land and Future Interests: Text, Examples, Problems, and Answers Edition: 4th ISBN: 9781531018818 Thank you for any assistance anyone can provide! / Lindsay Viars, M.A. Alternative Format Specialist Office of Student Accommodations 505M Hodges Hall West Virginia University Morgantown, WV 26506 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Fri Feb 21 09:49:46 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Susan Kelmer via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] Message to post in ATHEN listserv In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm assuming this is a book from a law book publisher. They are notorious for only providing files for books with a receipt for NEW book. Publishers can set up any such policies they like; there is no federal law that compels them to do differently, which is unfortunate. There is a law school on my campus, and I deal with this all the time. I do not have files for this book, unfortunately, so can't send them to you but here's hoping someone else has them and can send them. I have no love for law book publishers. Susan Kelmer Alternate Format Production Program Manager Disability Services Health and Wellness Services T 303 735 4836 www.colorado.edu/disabilityservices [cid:image001.png@01DB844E.520EAA90] Due to the nature of electronic communication, the security of this message cannot be guaranteed. If you've received this email in error please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. 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Would anyone have PDF files for the textbook below (they do not need to be edited or accessible as my university team works on this): Text Name: A Student's Guide to Estates in Land and Future Interests: Text, Examples, Problems, and Answers Edition: 4th ISBN: 9781531018818 Thank you for any assistance anyone can provide! / Lindsay Viars, M.A. Alternative Format Specialist Office of Student Accommodations 505M Hodges Hall West Virginia University Morgantown, WV 26506 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Fri Feb 21 10:20:20 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Sebastian M Niles via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] CART alternatives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Eileen Ava is a bit different than Otter or Glean when it comes to cost. Ava is more pay-as-you-go while Otter or Glean usually require bulk purchases. With Glean, we're paying about $36.98 per seat. For Otter, it's about $97.35 a seat (totally worth it). I should note that these are discount prices that my university has negotiated with the companies. The cost is far greater otherwise. Ava charges for a subscription of about $14.99 a month with options to add other users to that account. That's the base account which would allow you to use the automatic transcription feature. If you wanted live captioning, you'd have to pay extra (about $4.99 for every hour after 40 minutes). While this does seem like the more financially feasible option, it can add up if you have many deaf/hard-of-hearing students at your university. Most of these tools are pretty secure, but there is always a risk when you add student information to these services. We got around this with Ava by using an office account for all remote captioning sessions. This is not as feasible if you are making it the student's responsibility to use Ava for captioning though. As for what these services do with student information, we've been assured by all of them that they wouldn't sell student data. I can't guarantee that that is 100% true, but I'm choosing to believe these people. I understand that faculty are concerned about recordings being taken out of context. But students can do that regardless of whether or not they have a recording tool like Otter or Glean. My university has students sign agreements saying they won't share recordings with anyone with the knowledge that doing so might get them in trouble with student judicial affairs. This has eased some professors worries. There are still some holdouts, but I always tell them that the drawbacks to that audio potentially being shared inappropriately are outweighed by the equitable outcomes for the students with these kinds of notetaking tools. I think access offices have an easy time trying to explain the use of these tools to academic affairs. There is a proven equitable benefit for students with disabilities regardless of whether they use Otter, Glean, Ava, or some other tool. In the case of Ava, either deaf/hard-of-hearing students have captioning, or they don't and suffer for it. Academic affairs is good at recognizing compliance concerns on our campus. IT on the other hand is a bit more complicated. Our university has us complete vendor risk assessments, and sometimes these accessibility services don't meet full IT compliance requirements. However, Otter and Glean follow strict security protocols, which satisfies my university's IT department. I'm sure your IT department would be somewhat happy with them too. With Ava and similar tools, there is a struggle in getting IT approval. However, because this is a compliance issue, you might be able to convince IT to make exceptions in certain cases or have them work with these service providers to better tailor the product to the university's IT standards. There is only so much that these companies can do, but they are willing to work with university's to make sure that standards are met. I hope this answers your questions. Regards Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his) Accessible Technology Assistant Student Disability Center University of California-Davis Davis, CA 95616 ________________________________ From: Eileen Berger Sent: Friday, February 21, 2025 6:19 AM To: Sebastian M Niles ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] CART alternatives Hi Sebastion, Can you share the cost differentials with AVA? or compare otter.ai and Glean? Besides costs, are there different types of privacy issues with these tools? Additionally, faculty are worried that full transcripts/recordings of their classes will be taken out of context and/or shared inappropriately. For students with disabilities and Access Offices, these tools do provide appropriate access. How do Access Offices resolve these competing issues with IT and Academic Affairs and still provide student access and compliance? Eileen Berger On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 11:46?AM Sebastian M Niles via athen-list > wrote: Hello Ione My university has used remote captioners in the past, which can help fill the gaps for any students who needs human edited captions. We've also used Ava (https://www.ava.me/), which is a blend of human captioning and Otter style automatic captioning. Students can use the automatic captioning, and then request (or schedule) a human captioner for a class. The human edited captions requires more money though. Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his) Accessible Technology Assistant Student Disability Center University of California-Davis Davis, CA 95616 ________________________________ From: athen-list > on behalf of Ione Priest via athen-list > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2025 6:57 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] CART alternatives Hello all, We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with Otter for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT department is eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to security concerns and has asked that we explore other options in its stead. Are any of you using tools as an alternative to CART? If so, I'd greatly appreciate any insights you can offer! 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I have been having difficulty procuring publisher files from a publisher due to the student only having a receipt for a used and rented version of the textbook. The publisher informed me that they would only provide their files if the student had purchased a new version or eBook version. Would anyone have PDF files for the textbook below (they do not need to be edited or accessible as my university team works on this): Text Name: A Student's Guide to Estates in Land and Future Interests: Text, Examples, Problems, and Answers Edition: 4th ISBN: 9781531018818 Thank you for any assistance anyone can provide! / Lindsay Viars, M.A. Alternative Format Specialist Office of Student Accommodations 505M Hodges Hall West Virginia University Morgantown, WV 26506 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman12.u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Fri Feb 21 11:46:33 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Lissner, L. Scott via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] FW: Registration is open for the 2025 Multiple Perspectives Conference In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Please Share Registration is Open 2025 Multiple Perspectives Conference April 7th & 8th Registration Featured Sessions: ? Student Life Disability Services Student Panel: From Access to Belonging ? Three Views of the ADA: A Roundtable with ADA Coordinators for Ohio, Columbus and the University. ? Working Together: How Higher Education and Private Industry Can Advance Digital Accessibility ? Accessing Imagery: An Introduction to Audio Description and Alt Text ? Advancing Collegewide Accessibility: Making Lasting Change Despite High Turnover ? The Main Menu Project: Creating Screen-Reader Accessible Menus ? Thinking about Access and Inclusion through Crip Linguistics ? Supporting all Learners: Faculty Led Disability Inclusion ? Every Mind Matters, Creating Workplaces and Communities Where Every Person Thrives ? Access to Agriculture ? Supporting Disabled College Students Experiencing Barriers to Access ? Olmstead?s Integration Mandate: Accessible Housing On and Off Campus The 2025 Ethel Louise Armstrong Student Poster Competition Posters will be presented at the 25th Annual Multiple Perspectives on Access, Inclusion & Disability. APRIL 7 4:30-6:30 PM THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY ? COLUMBUS CAMPUS Call for Submissions Reviews Begin March 12, 2025 (Anniversary of the Capital Crawl The Ethel Louise Armstrong Student Poster Competition and reception is held annually to encourage students to network with the community, professionals, and scholars who share their interests in disability. This opportunity is made possible through the generosity of the ELA Foundation and its founder, Margaret Stanton. The event honors Margaret?s grandmother, Ethel Louise Armstrong, who encouraged Margaret to reject stereotypes, embrace self-determination, and excel in college despite the barriers of a pre-504/ADA world faced by disabled women. Margaret founded the ELA Foundation to "change the face of disability on the planet". The student posters highlight ongoing change and future challenges. Ethel Louise Armstrong 2025 Student Poster Competition Categories Helyn Marshall Accessible Arts & Performance Award ($500) Accessibility or disability-themed or demonstrating access in the presentation for Art or Performance presented at or sponsored by your institution. Graduate Research Award ($800) Supervised Student Research Undergraduate Research Award ($400) Supervised Student Research Class Projects Award ($300) Directed Projects & Papers for a course (Award goes to department to support future projects) Community Service & Applied Problem-Solving Award ($300) Projects by service-learning classes, institution sponsored activities, or student organizations focused on barrier removal, improved access, or increased inclusion (Award goes to organization/department to support future projects) Submission Details About Multiple Perspectives: Hosted by the Office of Institutional Equity at the Ohio State University and supported by the generosity of Margaret Stanton and the Ethel Louise Armstrong Endowment Fund. As a modern land grant university, an important part of Ohio State?s mission is serving the wider community as a catalyst for positive change and a springboard for collaborations with and among our partners in education, business, non-profits, and government. Since 2000, each year the university provides a forum for expanding our understanding of disability as integral to human experience and create opportunities to increase community resources through the synergy of collaboration. [Block ?0? Logo: The Ohio State University] L. Scott Lissner, Americans With Disabilities Act Coordinator and Section 504 Compliance Officer Office of Institutional Equity (614) 292-7024(v) (614) 688-3665(fax); Http://ada.osu.edu Give Disability Access Feedback and Report Concerns ?You are not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to desist from it.? ________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The Accessibility task force of the W3C Publishing Community Group is pleased to announce the third draft of the "Accessibility metadata display guide for digital publications 2.0". This is the final draft. We anticipate organizations to create implementations based on this final draft. We anticipate minor suggestions to be made as the implementations are developed. Please provide your valuable feedback on or before April, 11, 2025. The drafts are available at the following URLs: - Guidelines: https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/guidelines/ - EPUB Techniques: https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/techniques/epub- metadata/ - ONIX Techniques: https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/techniques/onix- metadata/ We have added to this final draft all the strings displayed by the guide. The strings in US English are contained in the canonical JSON file found on GitHub. We anticipate providing localized versions of this file moving forward and encourage anyone who would like to help with the localizations/translations to review these localizations as they become available. Please file a GitHub issue with your feedback. If you are uncomfortable filing a GitHub issue, feel free to send me the comment and I will file the issue on your behalf. Sincerely, George Kerscher, Chief Information Officer, DAISY Consortium on behalf of the W3C Publishing Community Accessibility task force -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Wed Feb 26 06:44:51 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Lindsay Viars via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] VoiceOver Suggestions for Fillable Forms Message-ID: I have a student who uses VoiceOver on his iPad as his choice of screen reader. The student has some forms in a class that we have been asked to make accessible and fillable. I have made a fillable PDF form that passes PDF/UA and WCAG standards according to PAC. We had a student tester who utilizes JAWS for his schoolwork and daily life to verify that the PDF created was accessible on JAWS, and he found it to be very accessible. The student who uses VoiceOver does not find it to be accessible - he has issues with VoiceOver reading the fields, saving when he marked any radio buttons, and saving the edited version of the document. The student would not confirm but I would assume he used Safari to open the PDF form. I worked with the JAWS student tester to test the document with VoiceOver on an iPad, and he confirmed it was not accessible or usable. I downloaded the Adobe app on our iPad and the student tester informed me that the document did not work well with VoiceOver even in the Adobe app. Are there any suggestions for making an accessible fillable PDF form that works for both JAWS and VoiceOver? Additionally, I created a Word version of the fillable form using the Developer tab in Word to create plain text fields and checkboxes, but my student tester informed me that he would not suggest this option to be used for JAWS or VoiceOver. Does any one have any suggestions for creating Word accessible forms that work for both JAWS and VoiceOver as well? I have included below the notes from the student tester on what did not work for additional details: PDF Fillable Form Tested on iPad in Adobe: I did not enjoy trying to fill this form out. The labels for text fields and check boxes are read as being separate from the page elements. Additionally, textboxes are not read by VoiceOver which is annoying. Example: tap a descriptor such as "name" and then swipe right to get focus onto the textbox, VoiceOver does not read this as "text field" but rather just announces the opportunity to select a custom action: "swipe up or down to access a custom action, then double tap to activate". When the textbox is selected, the keyboard does come up , and the user can type into it, but once they are finished, there's no way to read the entirety of their text simply as the text field doesn't populate anywhere on the screen for the user to listen to their entry. The checkboxes are similarly problematic. For the portion where the options are" MSW online, MSW on campus, and BSW", there is no indication from VoiceOver that they are being selected whatsoever. It just announces the same thing the textboxes did as described above. The portion where the student is meant to select more than one option for populations and services they would like to engage with is somewhat manageable. Same set up as the other elements described above, the element to interact with is separate from the descriptors, and it initially has to inform the user of the ability to "swipe up or down to access custom action, then double tap to activate" before it will tell the user that the checkbox is checked or not. If it isn't, there is nothing read, if it is, VO says "checkmark" So, it sort of works, but it's cumbersome and not ideal by any stretch. Final thoughts: I would not recommend this be the direction moving forward for delivering this document accessibly. Word Fillable Form (using developer tab options) Tested with JAWS in Microsoft Word I was able to enter text into the text fields for date and agency etc. Something to note: quick navigation does not work particularly well with this type of form. It does not want to move to elements with quick keys which means everything has to be arrowed to within the document before the user can interact with it. The user has to listen very carefully to JAWS when trying to write inside the textboxes as well. For example, because entering the date requires the user to navigate to the textbox on the line using the arrow keys, before typing inside it JAWS reads a message that I have transcribed into text: "date of interview plain text content control, (another arrow to the right) "Date of interview edit"; this is where the user can input the date. After some investigative work, I discovered that I was able to interact with the checkboxes on this form. As with the textboxes, the user must arrow to them on the line before they can engage with these page elements. For example, JAWS will read this as "Yes, move forward and confirm this placement, checkbox not checked, ballot box content control not checked"; to select to change this, press the spacebar. Pressing Enter does not work. Final thoughts: it's usable, but not ideal. It would be very easy for someone who didn't have the time or patience to sit down and research how to accomplish this task to say it wasn't accessible. It doesn't "just work" as it should. Work arounds are required. Word Fillable Form (using developer tab options) Tested on iPad using Microsoft Word I was not able to get any of the textboxes to open using quick navigation. When I arrowed through, I was able to type into the textboxes though. VoiceOver says, "click or tap here to enter text", however, just typing when the cursor is in that position seems to insert the text desired. The checkboxes are togglable, but their descriptors aren't read aloud. VoiceOver just says "unchecked" or "checked". Note: it is important to understand that when using the iPad there are essentially two versions of the document shown at all times. There's the version that is within the main text field that the user uses to move through the document, and a version that displays outside of the text field. The one outside of the text field is the one I was able to check or uncheck the checkboxes with. When they are navigated to within the text field itself, it says ballot box like with JAWS on windows, but when I double tap to activate it, the cursor gets thrown to another location within the document. Final notes: it's not user-friendly, and the checkboxes are still issues that need to be addressed. Any advice using VoiceOver for students (especially for fillable forms) would be greatly appreciated! / Lindsay Viars, M.A. Alternative Format Specialist Office of Student Accommodations 505M Hodges Hall West Virginia University Morgantown, WV 26506 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Wed Feb 26 08:47:27 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Joshua Hori via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] VoiceOver Suggestions for Fillable Forms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try Notes on the iPad, it should make all the form fields accessible in the PDF. You can also print out the form field and perform a document scan within the Notes app. It will auto OCR the content and make form fields editable. Notes is the "dragon pad" for Voice Control too. Best, Joshua Hori Accessible Technology Coordinator University of California, Davis Academic Technology Services Information Educational Technology 50 Hutchison Dr. Davis, CA 95616 530-752-2439 Schedule a meeting via Calendly ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Lindsay Viars via athen-list Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2025 6:44 AM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] VoiceOver Suggestions for Fillable Forms I have a student who uses VoiceOver on his iPad as his choice of screen reader. The student has some forms in a class that we have been asked to make accessible and fillable. I have made a fillable PDF form that passes PDF/UA and WCAG standards according to PAC. We had a student tester who utilizes JAWS for his schoolwork and daily life to verify that the PDF created was accessible on JAWS, and he found it to be very accessible. The student who uses VoiceOver does not find it to be accessible ? he has issues with VoiceOver reading the fields, saving when he marked any radio buttons, and saving the edited version of the document. The student would not confirm but I would assume he used Safari to open the PDF form. I worked with the JAWS student tester to test the document with VoiceOver on an iPad, and he confirmed it was not accessible or usable. I downloaded the Adobe app on our iPad and the student tester informed me that the document did not work well with VoiceOver even in the Adobe app. Are there any suggestions for making an accessible fillable PDF form that works for both JAWS and VoiceOver? Additionally, I created a Word version of the fillable form using the Developer tab in Word to create plain text fields and checkboxes, but my student tester informed me that he would not suggest this option to be used for JAWS or VoiceOver. Does any one have any suggestions for creating Word accessible forms that work for both JAWS and VoiceOver as well? I have included below the notes from the student tester on what did not work for additional details: PDF Fillable Form Tested on iPad in Adobe: I did not enjoy trying to fill this form out. The labels for text fields and check boxes are read as being separate from the page elements. Additionally, textboxes are not read by VoiceOver which is annoying. Example: tap a descriptor such as ?name? and then swipe right to get focus onto the textbox, VoiceOver does not read this as ?text field? but rather just announces the opportunity to select a custom action: ?swipe up or down to access a custom action, then double tap to activate?. When the textbox is selected, the keyboard does come up , and the user can type into it, but once they are finished, there?s no way to read the entirety of their text simply as the text field doesn?t populate anywhere on the screen for the user to listen to their entry. The checkboxes are similarly problematic. For the portion where the options are? MSW online, MSW on campus, and BSW?, there is no indication from VoiceOver that they are being selected whatsoever. It just announces the same thing the textboxes did as described above. The portion where the student is meant to select more than one option for populations and services they would like to engage with is somewhat manageable. Same set up as the other elements described above, the element to interact with is separate from the descriptors, and it initially has to inform the user of the ability to ?swipe up or down to access custom action, then double tap to activate? before it will tell the user that the checkbox is checked or not. If it isn?t, there is nothing read, if it is, VO says ?checkmark? So, it sort of works, but it?s cumbersome and not ideal by any stretch. Final thoughts: I would not recommend this be the direction moving forward for delivering this document accessibly. Word Fillable Form (using developer tab options) Tested with JAWS in Microsoft Word I was able to enter text into the text fields for date and agency etc. Something to note: quick navigation does not work particularly well with this type of form. It does not want to move to elements with quick keys which means everything has to be arrowed to within the document before the user can interact with it. The user has to listen very carefully to JAWS when trying to write inside the textboxes as well. For example, because entering the date requires the user to navigate to the textbox on the line using the arrow keys, before typing inside it JAWS reads a message that I have transcribed into text: ?date of interview plain text content control, (another arrow to the right) ?Date of interview edit?; this is where the user can input the date. After some investigative work, I discovered that I was able to interact with the checkboxes on this form. As with the textboxes, the user must arrow to them on the line before they can engage with these page elements. For example, JAWS will read this as ?Yes, move forward and confirm this placement, checkbox not checked, ballot box content control not checked?; to select to change this, press the spacebar. Pressing Enter does not work. Final thoughts: it?s usable, but not ideal. It would be very easy for someone who didn?t have the time or patience to sit down and research how to accomplish this task to say it wasn?t accessible. It doesn?t ?just work? as it should. Work arounds are required. Word Fillable Form (using developer tab options) Tested on iPad using Microsoft Word I was not able to get any of the textboxes to open using quick navigation. When I arrowed through, I was able to type into the textboxes though. VoiceOver says, ?click or tap here to enter text?, however, just typing when the cursor is in that position seems to insert the text desired. The checkboxes are togglable, but their descriptors aren?t read aloud. VoiceOver just says ?unchecked? or ?checked?. Note: it is important to understand that when using the iPad there are essentially two versions of the document shown at all times. There?s the version that is within the main text field that the user uses to move through the document, and a version that displays outside of the text field. The one outside of the text field is the one I was able to check or uncheck the checkboxes with. When they are navigated to within the text field itself, it says ballot box like with JAWS on windows, but when I double tap to activate it, the cursor gets thrown to another location within the document. Final notes: it?s not user-friendly, and the checkboxes are still issues that need to be addressed. Any advice using VoiceOver for students (especially for fillable forms) would be greatly appreciated! / Lindsay Viars, M.A. Alternative Format Specialist Office of Student Accommodations 505M Hodges Hall West Virginia University Morgantown, WV 26506 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Wed Feb 26 09:05:06 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Steve Green via athen-list) Date: Thu Jul 10 11:20:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] VoiceOver Suggestions for Fillable Forms In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The fact that the PDF form that passes PDF/UA and WCAG standards according to PAC doesn't really mean much. When we create PDF forms, we do a variety of things that are not required for conformance but greatly improve the user experience. That work is all done in Acrobat because you can't do it in the source document. It would be interesting to see your PDF because it may not be as good as you think. I would not use a Word document for this. There are three types of form control. The Legacy controls are very old, the ActiveX controls are quite old, and the Content Control controls are the newest. The accessibility varies from appalling to really bad. With effort, it's sometimes possible to find a way to use them with some assistive technologies, but I really don't recommend it. Steve Green Managing Director Test Partners Ltd From: athen-list On Behalf Of Lindsay Viars via athen-list Sent: 26 February 2025 14:45 To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] VoiceOver Suggestions for Fillable Forms I have a student who uses VoiceOver on his iPad as his choice of screen reader. The student has some forms in a class that we have been asked to make accessible and fillable. I have made a fillable PDF form that passes PDF/UA and WCAG standards according to PAC. We had a student tester who utilizes JAWS for his schoolwork and daily life to verify that the PDF created was accessible on JAWS, and he found it to be very accessible. The student who uses VoiceOver does not find it to be accessible - he has issues with VoiceOver reading the fields, saving when he marked any radio buttons, and saving the edited version of the document. The student would not confirm but I would assume he used Safari to open the PDF form. I worked with the JAWS student tester to test the document with VoiceOver on an iPad, and he confirmed it was not accessible or usable. I downloaded the Adobe app on our iPad and the student tester informed me that the document did not work well with VoiceOver even in the Adobe app. Are there any suggestions for making an accessible fillable PDF form that works for both JAWS and VoiceOver? Additionally, I created a Word version of the fillable form using the Developer tab in Word to create plain text fields and checkboxes, but my student tester informed me that he would not suggest this option to be used for JAWS or VoiceOver. Does any one have any suggestions for creating Word accessible forms that work for both JAWS and VoiceOver as well? I have included below the notes from the student tester on what did not work for additional details: PDF Fillable Form Tested on iPad in Adobe: I did not enjoy trying to fill this form out. The labels for text fields and check boxes are read as being separate from the page elements. Additionally, textboxes are not read by VoiceOver which is annoying. Example: tap a descriptor such as "name" and then swipe right to get focus onto the textbox, VoiceOver does not read this as "text field" but rather just announces the opportunity to select a custom action: "swipe up or down to access a custom action, then double tap to activate". When the textbox is selected, the keyboard does come up , and the user can type into it, but once they are finished, there's no way to read the entirety of their text simply as the text field doesn't populate anywhere on the screen for the user to listen to their entry. The checkboxes are similarly problematic. For the portion where the options are" MSW online, MSW on campus, and BSW", there is no indication from VoiceOver that they are being selected whatsoever. It just announces the same thing the textboxes did as described above. The portion where the student is meant to select more than one option for populations and services they would like to engage with is somewhat manageable. Same set up as the other elements described above, the element to interact with is separate from the descriptors, and it initially has to inform the user of the ability to "swipe up or down to access custom action, then double tap to activate" before it will tell the user that the checkbox is checked or not. If it isn't, there is nothing read, if it is, VO says "checkmark" So, it sort of works, but it's cumbersome and not ideal by any stretch. Final thoughts: I would not recommend this be the direction moving forward for delivering this document accessibly. Word Fillable Form (using developer tab options) Tested with JAWS in Microsoft Word I was able to enter text into the text fields for date and agency etc. Something to note: quick navigation does not work particularly well with this type of form. It does not want to move to elements with quick keys which means everything has to be arrowed to within the document before the user can interact with it. The user has to listen very carefully to JAWS when trying to write inside the textboxes as well. For example, because entering the date requires the user to navigate to the textbox on the line using the arrow keys, before typing inside it JAWS reads a message that I have transcribed into text: "date of interview plain text content control, (another arrow to the right) "Date of interview edit"; this is where the user can input the date. After some investigative work, I discovered that I was able to interact with the checkboxes on this form. As with the textboxes, the user must arrow to them on the line before they can engage with these page elements. For example, JAWS will read this as "Yes, move forward and confirm this placement, checkbox not checked, ballot box content control not checked"; to select to change this, press the spacebar. Pressing Enter does not work. Final thoughts: it's usable, but not ideal. It would be very easy for someone who didn't have the time or patience to sit down and research how to accomplish this task to say it wasn't accessible. It doesn't "just work" as it should. Work arounds are required. Word Fillable Form (using developer tab options) Tested on iPad using Microsoft Word I was not able to get any of the textboxes to open using quick navigation. When I arrowed through, I was able to type into the textboxes though. VoiceOver says, "click or tap here to enter text", however, just typing when the cursor is in that position seems to insert the text desired. The checkboxes are togglable, but their descriptors aren't read aloud. VoiceOver just says "unchecked" or "checked". Note: it is important to understand that when using the iPad there are essentially two versions of the document shown at all times. There's the version that is within the main text field that the user uses to move through the document, and a version that displays outside of the text field. The one outside of the text field is the one I was able to check or uncheck the checkboxes with. When they are navigated to within the text field itself, it says ballot box like with JAWS on windows, but when I double tap to activate it, the cursor gets thrown to another location within the document. Final notes: it's not user-friendly, and the checkboxes are still issues that need to be addressed. 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Is Grade 1 viable for a college level textbook or would that be too cumbersome for the student? I can understand Grade 1 being used for in-class assignments but for a full textbook it seems like it would make the text challenging to navigate. Edward Martinez Broward College ________________________________ Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this email communication may be subject to public disclosure. [cid:image447897.png@CFEAEC2C.9CEF07A5] Edward Martinez???? 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From the research I have done it seems that for textbooks and longer form documents Grade 2 is the standard since in truncates words and allows for fewer pages. Is Grade 1 viable for a college level textbook or would that be too cumbersome for the student? I can understand Grade 1 being used for in-class assignments but for a full textbook it seems like it would make the text challenging to navigate. Edward Martinez Broward College ________________________________ Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this email communication may be subject to public disclosure. [cid:image447897.png@CFEAEC2C.9CEF07A5] Edward Martinez???? 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Best, DON WINIECKI Handid Braille Services - a 501(c)(3) non-profit producer of braille & accessible media - specializing in languages that don't use Latin symbols systems - winner of the 2024 Jacob Bolotin Award from the National Federation of the Blind, for work producing braille in languages other than English Email: dwiniecki@handid.org Web: https://www.handid.org Tel: +1 208 571 8096 - Your donations make braille free for others! - Donate tax-deductible funds to Handid by clicking here ! On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 2:36?PM Edward Martinez via athen-list < athen-list@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Good Morning All, > > I am working with a blind student and had some questions about braille > grades. When using a braille printer, do you print for students using Grade > 1 or Grade 2? From the research I have done it seems that for textbooks and > longer form documents Grade 2 is the standard since in truncates words and > allows for fewer pages. Is Grade 1 viable for a college level textbook or > would that be too cumbersome for the student? I can understand Grade 1 > being used for in-class assignments but for a full textbook it seems like > it would make the text challenging to navigate. > > Edward Martinez > Broward College > > ------------------------------ > > Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written > communications to or from College employees regarding College business are > public records, available to the public and media upon request. 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From the research I have done it seems that for textbooks and longer form documents Grade 2 is the standard since in truncates words and allows for fewer pages. Is Grade 1 viable for a college level textbook or would that be too cumbersome for the student? I can understand Grade 1 being used for in-class assignments but for a full textbook it seems like it would make the text challenging to navigate. Edward Martinez Broward College ________________________________ Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this email communication may be subject to public disclosure. [cid:image001.png@01DB88F0.5CD0FBD0] Edward Martinez???? 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By "releasing the hounds" on a description, the describer can get a feel how different types of readers or listeners will react to the description they provide. We have been using the guide dogs in our yearly project to describe park brochures and they are very fun and enlightening to play with. The website has a sample photo and sample description already pasted in, which you can use to play with the dogs. Or you can replace the photo and description with your own. If you know describers in your work or school environment, invite them to create an account on accessHound to get greater feedback for their descriptions. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Our mission is to support California community colleges and districts in their accessibility efforts by providing guidance, training, tools, and technical expertise. Memberships: Association of Higher Education and Disability (AHEAD), Access Technology Higher Education Network (ATHEN), International Association of Accessibility Professionals (IAAP) From: athen-list On Behalf Of Robert Beach via athen-list Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2025 6:20 AM To: Edward Martinez ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Braille Types Is there a reason why the student needs grade 1? Robert Lee Beach, Assistive Technology Specialist Kansas City Kansas Community College rbeach@kckcc.edu 913-288-7671 From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Edward Martinez via athen-list Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2025 3:36 PM To: athen-list@u.washington.edu Subject: [Athen] Braille Types Good Morning All, I am working with a blind student and had some questions about braille grades. When using a braille printer, do you print for students using Grade 1 or Grade 2? From the research I have done it seems that for textbooks and longer form documents Grade 2 is the standard since in truncates words and allows for fewer pages. Is Grade 1 viable for a college level textbook or would that be too cumbersome for the student? I can understand Grade 1 being used for in-class assignments but for a full textbook it seems like it would make the text challenging to navigate. Edward Martinez Broward College _____ Please Note: Due to Florida's very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this email communication may be subject to public disclosure. Edward Martinez???? 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