[Athen] Math major who need speech to text

[Noble, Stephen via athen-list]

Hey Wink,

Yes...indeed. One can still even find the old support manual online:
McClella_OT_0620_1U<https://www.dyslexic.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/MathTalkManual.pdf>

And...just like how we got human beings safely to the Moon in the late 60s early 70s...and then lost all the technical knowledge and capabilities...software that once could do great things eventually fades from our grasp. Maybe one day AI will simply keep all software current without human intervention. Something out of Jules Vernes, perhaps. 😉


--Steve Noble
steve.noble at louisville.edu
502-969-3088
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Steve,

Dragon with MathType & Scientific Notebook was --past tense-- a very usable AT combo to dictate math up through the highest levels, including graphing and physics. Metroplex Voice computing shut it down a couple of years pre-covid because they could not find anyone to rewrite/update the coding in Scientific Notebook. It was a brilliant solution which sadly no longer at our disposal.

My input FWIW

Wink

Wink Harner
Accessibility Consultant/Alternative Text Production
The Foreign Type

Portland OR
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This email was dictated using Dragon NaturallySpeaking. Please forgive quirks, misrecognitions, or errata .


On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 12:22 PM Noble, Stephen via athen-list <athen-list at u.washington.edu<mailto:athen-list at u.washington.edu>> wrote:
Math dictation is about like a mission to Mars. Well...perhaps that is a bit of a stretch, but shall I say it is not so simple.

The solution with the least investment in training (but not without costs) is Equatio.
Equatio - Equation Editor to Create Accessible Digital Math | Texthelp<https://www.texthelp.com/products/equatio/>

However, Equatio may not as useful in higher level colleges mathematics courses. However, I have not done a real evaluation of how well it holds up in advanced mathematics.

It is also "technically" possible to dictate mathematics using some versions of Microsoft Word. At least, according to Murray Sargent, the developer of this capability. If that is true, this would essentially be a "no cost" method...but I have no idea what the usability of this method may be and how easy it is to learn.
Math Dictation - Math in Office<https://devblogs.microsoft.com/math-in-office/math-dictation/>

I should add that I have not heard back from people who actually use math dictation in Office.

I have also heard of people who use Dragon with MathType. Because MathType has keyboard shortcuts for all commands, it is technically possible to train Dragon to recognize these commands and build math expressions. I did know someone, years ago, who did this. However, I suspect this path takes a long ramp-up and the broken arm will likely be mended before one become proficient using that method.

Just a few thoughts. Hope they are helpful.

--Steve Noble
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Good Morning,



Hope all is well.  We have a student who is a math major and has broken both arms.  Does anyone have any thoughts on how to help and what speech to text would work the best for them.



Thanks



Lorraine





Lorraine S. Norwich, BSME, MSIS

Assistant Director of Disability & Access Services

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