[Athen] Canon scanner question

[Philip Kiff via athen-list]

Whoops, here is a better URL:
https://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/canon_dr_9080c.html#technical-information

Phil.

On 2025-05-02 10:47 a.m., Philip Kiff via athen-list wrote:

>

> If one of these solutions doesn't meet your needs, and you still want 

> to use an old scanner, then you might consider trying VueScan from 

> Hamrick Software.

>

> Vuescan is not free software, but they are a small business that have 

> been providing reliable replacement drivers and practical, usable 

> software for discontinued scanners for well over 20 years now.

>

> I have no personal or business relationship with the company other 

> than having purchased their software over a decade ago, in order to be 

> able to continue to use an HP Scanjet 4850 - which I'm still using now.

>

> Here is their support page on the Canon DR-9080C, if that's the 

> scanner you're looking for drivers for:

> https://www.hamrick.com/vuescan/canon_dr_9080c.html

>

> Phil.

>

> Philip Kiff

> D4K Communications

>

> On 2025-04-29 1:45 p.m., Xanth King via athen-list wrote:

>> Okay great!

>>

>> I've worked with that model. It's pretty good. We've been using a 

>> Canon DR X10c for over 10 years. The double sheet detection and 

>> driver software for color dropout and image adjustment is way better, 

>> but they're in the 10k+ range. They also weigh 87 pounds.

>>

>> Just something to consider if you do ever get your unit to upgrade.

>>

>> Lately we've been way down on scanning requests because we almost 

>> always get digital versions from the publishers, but it's nice to 

>> have a such a workhorse. I've only had to replace the rollers and 

>> pads and keep the glass clean.

>>

>> Let me know if you have any questions. Happy to help.

>>

>> *Xanth King*

>> Accessible Formats Technology Specialist

>> Pronouns: They/Them/Theirs

>> Wheeler Hall, Basement Level, Room 22

>>

>>

>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 10:29 AM Deborah Armstrong 

>> <armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu> wrote:

>>

>>     This was very clear and the scanner model is correct, I was just

>>     working remotely and couldn’t remember the exact model.

>>

>>     *From:*athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman22.u.washington.edu>

>>     *On Behalf Of *Xanth King via athen-list

>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, April 29, 2025 9:52 AM

>>     *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network

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>>     *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Canon scanner question

>>

>>     Hello,

>>

>>     I have found that these older scanner series will work with older

>>     drivers on newer machines, but the company doesn't maintain the

>>     'driver signing' which keeps them "secure". As far as I can tell,

>>     the protocols work exactly the same despite the newer operating

>>     systems.

>>

>>     However, when you install the Windows 7 driver, even if you

>>     confirm that you are okay with the driver being unsigned, Windows

>>     10/11 security will not allow an installation. That is, it will

>>     behave as though the installation worked, but nothing will

>>     happen. This is because you have to turn off driver signature

>>     enforcement.

>>

>>     This requires administrative access to your computer, so you will

>>     likely need help from IT unless you have gotten admin privileges.

>>

>>     If you do, you need to reboot into advanced startup (hold down

>>     shift when you hit restart)

>>     https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2294-boot-advanced-startup-options-windows-10-a.html

>>     <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2294-boot-advanced-startup-options-windows-10-a.html__;!!A-B3JKCz!EXzv4PoeeV3cXCc6fkgQRFo7cEiAwDryzU73q47VMSNpdug2d8GVNwgG0sAHpU5M2UJn0SDsNKucULXIjXc5bCnJOHTz_olbT0k$>

>>     and Disable driver signature enforcement

>>     https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/156602-how-enable-disable-driver-signature-enforcement-windows-10-a.html

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>>     (when is only temporary for the next time the computer goes into

>>     Windows.)

>>

>>     Then you can install the Windows 7 driver from Canon's website.

>>     Run it as administrator. If it doesn't work, try installing it in

>>     compatibility mode.

>>

>>     Also, it could be a lack of google-fu, but I can't find a DR 8090

>>     driver. Presuming this is the 9080c, here is the page with the

>>     driver. You can switch the operating system to Windows 7 and get

>>     it there.

>>

>>     https://www.usa.canon.com/support/p/imageformula-dr-9080c-color-production-scanner?srsltid=AfmBOooxHiaWvZTRtSQE6eMhTj_hgZKsDXoT7Bz2BBTosbXq4GtjPS51

>>     <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.usa.canon.com/support/p/imageformula-dr-9080c-color-production-scanner?srsltid=AfmBOooxHiaWvZTRtSQE6eMhTj_hgZKsDXoT7Bz2BBTosbXq4GtjPS51__;!!A-B3JKCz!EXzv4PoeeV3cXCc6fkgQRFo7cEiAwDryzU73q47VMSNpdug2d8GVNwgG0sAHpU5M2UJn0SDsNKucULXIjXc5bCnJOHTzrxPGiBs$>

>>

>>     Hope this helps. If this was unclear, feel free to shoot me any

>>     questions.

>>

>>     *Xanth King*

>>

>>     Accessible Formats Technology Specialist

>>

>>     Pronouns: They/Them/Theirs

>>

>>     Wheeler Hall, Basement Level, Room 22

>>

>>     On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 9:06 AM Will Pines via athen-list

>>     <athen-list at u.washington.edu> wrote:

>>

>>         I was using a 3090 with Windows 7/10 with a generic driver. I

>>         was able to get Capture Perfect to work but with only Batch

>>         Scan and single page scan.. none of the extended menus that

>>         worked with its original drivers and software. We could no

>>         longer get parts for the 3090 (rollers, sensors, etc.).

>>

>>         Department purchased DRG-2110. I am running the 2110 on

>>         Windows 10 with its native Capture software with no problems.

>>

>>         Best,

>>

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>>         <athen-list-bounces at mailman22.u.washington.edu> *On Behalf Of

>>         *Susan Kelmer via athen-list

>>         *Sent:* Tuesday, April 29, 2025 8:52 AM

>>         *To:* Deborah Armstrong <armstrongdeborah at fhda.edu>; Access

>>         Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list at u.washington.edu>

>>         *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Canon scanner question

>>

>>         Scanner technology has come a long way, and some older Canon

>>         scanners (that are not horribly pricey) are working just fine

>>         with updated Windows version.

>>

>>         I still use and absolutely swear by the Canon ImageFormula

>>         series of scanners.  Sheet feed, have OCR built in, and run

>>         just seamlessly for me.  These scanners are now 10 years old

>>         or so, but have survived every operating system upgrade I’ve

>>         gone through with them.  I’m using a Canon DRM160.

>>

>>         Those older Canon 5080s were so picky about operating systems

>>         and just did not upgrade well to new operating systems, but

>>         I’m here to tell you that Canon does indeed make scanners

>>         that will.  Bonus: they have a smaller footprint so don’t

>>         take up hardly any room on my desk.

>>

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>>         *Sent:* Tuesday, April 29, 2025 9:46 AM

>>         *To:* 'Access Technology Higher Education Network'

>>         <athen-list at u.washington.edu>

>>         *Subject:* [Athen] Canon scanner question

>>

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>>

>>         The answer is probably no, but here’s the situation. A long

>>         time ago I had a Canon high speed scanner, DR 50 something. I

>>         think it was a DR5090, but I’m not entirely sure. When

>>         Windows 7 came out, there were no longer drivers that worked

>>         with it, though the scanner itself worked fine.

>>

>>         So I convinced my department to spend another $7,000 on a DR

>>         8090  scanner which is still working fine.

>>

>>         But Windows 10 came out, again, no drivers supported it.

>>

>>         So I hid my Windows 7 PC under my desk, even though we had

>>         strict rules to surplus all our old computers due to Windows

>>         7 no longer being updated.

>>

>>         Five years later, and if I still want a high-speed scanner

>>         that works with modern Windows 11, I’m going to have to beg

>>         again. And it is silly, because this scanner still works just

>>         fine. Also the college wants to avoid spending money it does

>>         not need to spend.

>>

>>         So I continue to hide the PC controlling this scanner and

>>         wonder if anyone has a better solution.

>>

>>         I did try running the scanners in a VM, both when Windows XP

>>         became deprecated and after that Windows 7, but the drivers

>>         would not communicate with the virtual machine. If anyone has

>>         had luck doing this, let me know.

>>

>>         With such an expensive scanner, I’m disappointed that Canon

>>         has refused twice to keep its drivers updated for modern

>>         operating systems. I know it is in their best interest to

>>         sell new models, but they could have sold new drivers for a

>>         few bucks and kept cash flow going that way as well.

>>

>>         I worry a little about continuing to run Windows 7 just so I

>>         can use this scanner, but I also don’t want to explain why I

>>         want a new one when this one works fine.

>>

>>         --Debee

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