[Athen] Seeking an accessible math book

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Yes I understand what she was looking for. I was simply trying to provide another method to get to the accessible part.

Monica,

Math entered into canvas today is totally accessible and renders in MathML. You don't have to do anything special to make it work. My recommendation would be to provide a word document with the math as math ml or as a canvas page.

The video you watched is probably old because the way that they used to do it was having the math rendered as an image with latex entered as the alternate text. But now canvas natively supports accessible math. Of course, this also depends on what software the student is using, but what I've outlined should work just fine.

- Shawn


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Hi Shawn,

Put me on the list of folks that want your video coming on June 18th! My email address is: molsson at sbctc.edu<mailto:molsson at sbctc.edu>

After the equations are in MathML, how do you recommend sharing the Math with students, would the final output be a word document with MathML?

In this Accessible Math webinar from the CCC system<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLORGoe3lys>, I watched a STEM faculty past LaTeX code directly into a Canvas page using by toggling on the LaTeX edit button in the Equation Editor and then Math Jax (behind the scenes) renders it on the Cavas page as readable Math to the screen reader user. Are you familiar with this process?

Thanks,
Monica



Monica M. Olsson (she/her/hers)

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Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges

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Highly recommend using MathPix for converting large PDFs with math. You can upload the math and have everything automatically created in LaTex. Then you can export as a word doc, and use MathType to one click convert the equations to MathML.

I have a video on this - but its not coming out until June 18th! :)


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Hi Susan,

I lead accessibility efforts at UW Bothell and have been doing accessible Math testing with MathType and the Word Equation Editor for Math as well as Chemistry formulas for lab handouts. Could you share Math Book information with me too, please? Thank you so much!



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Subject: Re: [Athen] Seeking an accessible math book

Deb, I have some files for pre-calc, linear algebra, and calc in both Word with MathType and MathML format.  Not whole books, as we really just do the needed sections and chapters, but I can certainly send you some.  If this works, let me know and I’ll put together a selection for you.





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Hopefully an OER textbook for basic Math, pre-algebra, and algebra perhaps.

My goal is to ensure I understand both how the Humanware devices that support math, and the JAWS support for math work.

I am field-testing one device and I own another one. Plus I use JAWS with several Braille displays.

The Math that’s supported is Math-ML and equations entered in the Word equation editor, so the format of the documents could be either Word or HTML. Images of formulas or equations are not going to cut it!

Right now, I have no blind students who use Braille that are taking any math. and those using JAWS are not taking math either right now.

But eventually my Braille readers will be taking some sort of freshman math and so will my JAWS users.

And I want to be ahead of things so I can show the students and their instructors how all this works.

I’ve listened to a few webinars, but I don’t actually have more than a few simple examples, and what I really need is a textbook so I can try working through some exercises and be able to demo this stuff. Getting Nemeth in textbooks is pretty easy, but I’m looking for textbooks that the devices or JAWS can work with, because ideally I want instructors producing accessible exams. And of course not all my blind students can read Braille.

I wish someone would get a grant to produce a fully accessible remedial math online course that will allow my blind students to easily qualify for either higher math or give them enough math they can get a non-STEM degree.

Thoughts? Availability of accessible textbooks?

--Debee


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