From athen-list at u.washington.edu Wed Oct 1 07:15:08 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Willard, Amy via athen-list) Date: Wed Oct 1 07:15:15 2025 Subject: [Athen] Microscopes for Low Vision In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Joshua! Amy Willard Accessible Technology Coordinator|ADA Compliance Metropolitan Community College Office: 816-604-1092 3200 Broadway, Kansas City, MO 64111 amy.willard@mcckc.edu | www.mcckc.edu Preparing students, serving communities, creating opportunities for all ________________________________ From: Joshua Hori Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2025 5:20 PM To: Kamran Rasul ; Access Technology Higher Education Network ; Willard, Amy Subject: Re: Microscopes for Low Vision You might be able to fit a digital camera over the microscope?s eye piece to display on a computer. I think these 2 should fit the eye piece. AmScope MD Series Digital Eyepiece Microscope Camera Swift 5.0 Megapixel Digital Camera Best, Joshua Hori Accessible Technology Coordinator Information Educational Technology Academic Technology Services 50 Hutchison Dr. Davis, CA 95616 530-752-2439 Schedule a meeting via Calendly From: athen-list on behalf of Kamran Rasul via athen-list Date: Monday, September 29, 2025 at 7:21?AM To: 'Willard, Amy' , 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: [Athen] Microscopes for Low Vision No problem! [cid:image001.png@01DC312A.A527F900] Kamran Rasul, MEd. Assistive Technology/Alternate Format Specialist (SDS) Phone: 410-516-1167 E-mail: krasul1@jhu.edu Garland Hall, 1st Floor, Office 135-G 3400 N. Charles Street Baltimore, MD 21218 Schedule a meeting with Kamran From: Willard, Amy Sent: Monday, September 29, 2025 10:10 AM To: Kamran Rasul ; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' Subject: Re: Microscopes for Low Vision External Email - Use Caution Thank you Kamran! I didn't realize that other distributors had this so I greatly appreciate it. Amy Willard Accessible Technology Coordinator|ADA Compliance Metropolitan Community College Office: 816-604-1092 3200 Broadway, Kansas City, MO 64111 amy.willard@mcckc.edu | www.mcckc.edu Preparing students, serving communities, creating opportunities for all ________________________________ From: Kamran Rasul > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2025 8:49 AM To: Willard, Amy >; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' > Subject: RE: Microscopes for Low Vision Full HD 7" Digital Compound Microscope w/ Mechanical Stage, 4 Objectives, and 32GB MicroSD Card [cid:image001.png@01DC312A.A527F900] Kamran Rasul, MEd. Assistive Technology/Alternate Format Specialist (SDS) Phone: 410-516-1167 E-mail: krasul1@jhu.edu Garland Hall, 1st Floor, Office 135-G 3400 N. Charles Street Baltimore, MD 21218 Schedule a meeting with Kamran From: athen-list > On Behalf Of Willard, Amy via athen-list Sent: Monday, September 29, 2025 9:36 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: [Athen] Microscopes for Low Vision External Email - Use Caution Greetings, Any recommendations for microscopes for low vision? The microscope used in class is a Nikon YS2-T so I am looking at either some kind of attachments for this or an alternative if needed. I found this one recommended on a previous thread but it is unfortunately sold out. https://amscope.com/collections/microscopes/products/c-dm300hd Thanks all, Amy Willard Accessible Technology Coordinator|ADA Compliance Metropolitan Community College Office: 816-604-1092 3200 Broadway, Kansas City, MO 64111 amy.willard@mcckc.edu | www.mcckc.edu Preparing students, serving communities, creating opportunities for all CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The contents of this email message and any attachments are intended solely for the addressee(s) and may contain confidential and/or privileged information and may be legally protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message or their agent, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply email and then delete this message and any attachments. 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I have to rant a bit: it seems like every quarter some instructor comes up with yet another online (third-party) tool that I'm asked to look at for accessibility. In the good old days, instructors just had discussion forums; now they've dispensed with it and have all these online learning labs that may or may not be accessible and even when they are, require advanced level computer skills. And they cost money too! I wish they would vet these things before adopting them. Plus I'm seeing more and more students with limited computer skills; they do everything on their phone. This goes for both blind and LD students. But you need to use a computer for most of these tools. And in high school, they all got personal human Aides instead of learning independence skills. So the trend seems to be more and more students with minimal computer skills and more and more web-based apps that require them! --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That should help. *Elizabeth Killinger* *Associate Coordinator* *FIT-ABLE | Office of Disability ServicesFashion Institute of Technology* David Dubinsky Student Center, A570 Phone: 212.217.4090 Website: fitnyc.edu/fitable On Wed, Oct 1, 2025, 10:54?PM Deborah Armstrong via athen-list < athen-list@u.washington.edu> wrote: > My blind student struggling with Perusal told me she has to also use ?Eli > Review? another online tool integrated in to her online class that she says > requires highlighting and ?clicking on stuff?. > > I got access to her course, but it?s a subscription thing so I?m not > signing up just to test it. > > Anyone know anything about this tool and if it is screen reader friendly? > > I have to rant a bit: it seems like every quarter some instructor comes up > with yet another online (third-party) tool that I?m asked to look at for > accessibility. In the good old days, instructors just had discussion > forums; now they?ve dispensed with it and have all these online learning > labs that may or may not be accessible and even when they are, require > advanced level computer skills. And they cost money too! I wish they would > vet these things before adopting them. > > Plus I?m seeing more and more students with limited computer skills; they > do everything on their phone. This goes for both blind and LD students. But > you need to use a computer for most of these tools. > > And in high school, they all got personal human Aides instead of learning > independence skills. > > So the trend seems to be more and more students with minimal computer > skills and more and more web-based apps that require them! > > --Debee > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman22.u.washington.edu > http://mailman22.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Fri Oct 3 10:46:58 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Kevin Price via athen-list) Date: Fri Oct 3 10:47:07 2025 Subject: [Athen] Titanium Accessibility? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Athen, I am working with a Blind student who is trying to use Titanium. The Titanium software works with confidential client notes. We have tried NVDA and JAWS and can?t get it to work (read) at all. Has anyone used Titanium and found that it is accessible, or found another solution to make it accessible? Any ideas would be appreciated. Kevin Kevin Price, MSW Assistant Director of Accessible Technology Student Accessibility Services Access and Community Engagement University of Central Florida 4000 Central Florida Blvd Ferrell Commons, Room 155B Orlando, FL 32816-3661 Office: 407.823.2371 kevin.price@ucf.edu sas.sswb.ucf.edu Please note: Florida has a very broad open records law (F.S. 119). Emails may be subject to public disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Fri Oct 3 11:12:03 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Deborah Armstrong via athen-list) Date: Fri Oct 3 11:12:10 2025 Subject: [Athen] BrailleBlaster Message-ID: I just updated my BrailleBlaster (free transcribing software) BrailleBlaster And it's really nice. Loads of improvements. I'm having to do quite a bit of Braille these days for a few developmentally delayed students who cannot use computers and the results are really great. I also brailled some stuff for myself from the web, and love the way it automatically imports tables and preserves headings and lists. Saves a ton of time and the thing is FREE!!! --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Fri Oct 3 12:05:27 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Karthikeyan, Ramya via athen-list) Date: Fri Oct 3 12:05:36 2025 Subject: [Athen] BrailleBlaster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Great to hear about the improvements Debee! Are you using the BrailleBlaster 3.1 version? Ramya Karthikeyan Alternative Format Specialist UCLA Center for Accessible Education 310-825-1501 (CAE line) http://www.cae.ucla.edu/ ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Deborah Armstrong via athen-list Sent: Friday, October 3, 2025 11:12:03 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] BrailleBlaster I just updated my BrailleBlaster (free transcribing software) BrailleBlaster And it?s really nice. Loads of improvements. I?m having to do quite a bit of Braille these days for a few developmentally delayed students who cannot use computers and the results are really great. I also brailled some stuff for myself from the web, and love the way it automatically imports tables and preserves headings and lists. Saves a ton of time and the thing is FREE!!! --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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She?s teaching psych and sociology to nursing students and is required to use integrated labs from these two publishers. She says they contain eBooks with integrated videos, quizzes and other study materials like flash cards. And she cannot access them at all. She wants to show some of the videos in her class and point out specific sections in the eBooks but she cannot she says due to complete inaccessibility of both publishers? products. And of course she?s concerned she could loos her job if she cannot teach effectively. I?m going to remote in with her Sunday to see if it is her lack of screen reader skill or the inaccessibility of the products, but I must say, I?ve never had a single week where I?ve run across so much drama over inaccessible third-party online academic products. Is everyone just buying prepackaged curriculum now or what?s with the explosion of all this stuff? I feel like I can only barely help folks with these challenges. 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Call for Proposals/Save the Date In-Reply-To: References: <4A472C1B-DA25-4435-8C20-824814563553@gmail.com> Message-ID: SAVE THE DATE CALL FOR PPRESENTATIONS The 26th Annual Multiple Perspective Conference: Infrastructures for Accessibility APRIL 13th ? 14th 2026 The Ohio State University - Columbus, Ohio Multiple Perspective?s celebrates and explores the multiple meanings and expressions of access; recognizing disability as inherent to the human condition and accessibility as integral to design, technological innovation, and engage citizenship. This year?s theme asks you to consider facilitators; enabling structures that allow full engagement in society. From curb-cuts to AI what policies and practices that advance us toward achieving Congress? purpose for enacting the ADA. ?The Nation's proper goals regarding individuals with disabilities are to assure equality of opportunity, full participation, independent living, and economic self-sufficiency for such individuals? It is the purpose of this Act? 1. to provide a clear and comprehensive national mandate for the elimination of discrimination against individuals with disabilities; 2. to provide clear, strong, consistent, enforceable standards addressing discrimination against individuals with disabilities; 3. to ensure that the Federal Government plays a central role in enforcing the standards established in this Act on behalf of individuals with disabilities; and 4. to invoke the sweep of congressional authority, including the power to enforce the fourteenth amendment and to regulate commerce, in order to address the major areas of discrimination faced day-to-day by people with disabilities. Pub. L. 110-325,Preference will be given to proposals that explore practices, policies and structures that facilitate access, serve as a catalyst for collaborations; or connect individuals to local, national or international communities. * Please use our online Submission Form * Proposal reviews begin December 3, 2025 International Day of Disabled Persons * Acceptances by January 4, 2026 Louis Braille?s Birthday (World Braille Day) * Presenter confirmations requested on January 23, 2026 Ed Roberts Birthday Past Programs Conference Updates To be on the mailing list for the conference, send e-mail to ADA-OSU@osu.edu Please Note: The full conference fees will be waived, and lunch provided for onsite for presenters. Presenters are responsible for their own travel and lodging. Supported by the generosity of Margaret Stanton and the Ethel Louise Armstrong Endowment Fund and the Civil Rights Compliance Office at the Ohio State University. Since 2000, the university?s ADA Coordinator has presented a series of workshops and public events supporting the university?s mission as a modern land grant university; serving the wider community by providing a forum for understanding of disability as integral to human experience and creating opportunities s through collaboration with and among our partners in education, business, non-profits, and government. U.S. Department of Labor?s Office of Disability Employment Policy Celebrates October as Disability Employment Awareness Month [Images of people with disabilities and fireworks. Says ?Celebrating Value and Talent, National Disability Employment Awareness Month.? Also includes America 250 logo, the DOL seal followed by the words ?Office of Disability Employment Policy, United States Department of Labor? and #NDEAM, 80th Anniversary, and dol.gov/odep.] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This has been one of those weeks with so many third-party semi-accessible products that instructors are integrating in to our courses. Then when I got home Friday night, thinking I'd been asked about everything, I got a call from a girlfriend who uses a screen reader and teaches at Jersey college. She's teaching psych and sociology to nursing students and is required to use integrated labs from these two publishers. She says they contain eBooks with integrated videos, quizzes and other study materials like flash cards. And she cannot access them at all. She wants to show some of the videos in her class and point out specific sections in the eBooks but she cannot she says due to complete inaccessibility of both publishers' products. And of course she's concerned she could loos her job if she cannot teach effectively. I'm going to remote in with her Sunday to see if it is her lack of screen reader skill or the inaccessibility of the products, but I must say, I've never had a single week where I've run across so much drama over inaccessible third-party online academic products. Is everyone just buying prepackaged curriculum now or what's with the explosion of all this stuff? I feel like I can only barely help folks with these challenges. Makes me want to retire and just forget it all. All thoughts are welcome. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Mon Oct 6 07:00:44 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (JORDISON_SHAWN via athen-list) Date: Mon Oct 6 07:00:55 2025 Subject: [Athen] Titanium Accessibility? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My assumption would be if its possible - there is probably an internal setting for accounts that would give access. The confidentiality piece is probably whats blocking it at the moment. Ive seen some software block screen shots and make them all white on sensitive data. With that said - Im not familiar with that specific program and these required settings. * Shawn ? Shawn Jordison MS, Ed.D 530-238-5645 Accessibility Subject Matter Expert Book a Session with me YouTube channel featuring Accessibility Tutorials [Sent from Front] On October 3, 2025 at 10:48 AM PDT athen-list@u.washington.edu wrote: CAUTION: This email originated outside SMC. Hi Athen, I am working with a Blind student who is trying to use Titanium. The Titanium software works with confidential client notes. We have tried NVDA and JAWS and can?t get it to work (read) at all. Has anyone used Titanium and found that it is accessible, or found another solution to make it accessible? Any ideas would be appreciated. Kevin Kevin Price, MSW Assistant Director of Accessible Technology Student Accessibility Services Access and Community Engagement University of Central Florida 4000 Central Florida Blvd Ferrell Commons, Room 155B Orlando, FL 32816-3661 Office: 407.823.2371 kevin.price@ucf.edu sas.sswb.ucf.edu Please note: Florida has a very broad open records law (F.S. 119). Emails may be subject to public disclosure. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Sat Oct 4 14:34:19 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Lissner, L. Scott via athen-list) Date: Mon Oct 6 07:54:29 2025 Subject: [Athen] Fw: Infrastructures for Accessibility: The 26th Annual Multiple Perspectives Conference at The Ohio State University. Call for Proposals/Save the Date In-Reply-To: References: <4A472C1B-DA25-4435-8C20-824814563553@gmail.com> Message-ID: SAVE THE DATE CALL FOR PPRESENTATIONS The 26th Annual Multiple Perspective Conference: Infrastructures for Accessibility APRIL 13th ? 14th 2026 The Ohio State University - Columbus, Ohio Multiple Perspective?s celebrates and explores the multiple meanings and expressions of access; recognizing disability as inherent to the human condition and accessibility as integral to design, technological innovation, and engage citizenship. This year?s theme asks you to consider facilitators; enabling structures that allow full engagement in society. From curb-cuts to AI what policies and practices that advance us toward achieving Congress? purpose for enacting the ADA. ?The Nation's proper goals regarding individuals with disabilities are to assure equality of opportunity, full participation, independent living, and economic self-sufficiency for such individuals? It is the purpose of this Act? 1. to provide a clear and comprehensive national mandate for the elimination of discrimination against individuals with disabilities; 2. to provide clear, strong, consistent, enforceable standards addressing discrimination against individuals with disabilities; 3. to ensure that the Federal Government plays a central role in enforcing the standards established in this Act on behalf of individuals with disabilities; and 4. to invoke the sweep of congressional authority, including the power to enforce the fourteenth amendment and to regulate commerce, in order to address the major areas of discrimination faced day-to-day by people with disabilities. Pub. L. 110-3 5. Preference will be given to proposals that explore practices, policies and structures that facilitate access, serve as a catalyst for collaborations; or connect individuals to local, national or international communities. * Please use our online Submission Form * Proposal reviews begin December 3, 2025 International Day of Disabled Persons * Acceptances by January 4, 2026 Louis Braille?s Birthday (World Braille Day) * Presenter confirmations requested on January 23, 2026 Ed Roberts Birthday Past Programs Conference Updates To be on the mailing list for the conference, send e-mail to ADA-OSU@osu.edu Please Note: The full conference fees will be waived, and lunch provided for onsite for presenters. Presenters are responsible for their own travel and lodging. Supported by the generosity of Margaret Stanton and the Ethel Louise Armstrong Endowment Fund and the Civil Rights Compliance Office at the Ohio State University. Since 2000, the university?s ADA Coordinator has presented a series of workshops and public events supporting the university?s mission as a modern land grant university; serving the wider community by providing a forum for understanding of disability as integral to human experience and creating opportunities s through collaboration with and among our partners in education, business, non-profits, and government. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Thu Oct 9 13:16:39 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Thompson, Marc via athen-list) Date: Thu Oct 9 13:16:46 2025 Subject: [Athen] Registration is Open for the Information Accessibility Design and Policy (IADP) Online Professional Certificate Program Message-ID: If you?ve been thinking about registering for the Information Accessibility Design & Policy (IADP) professional certificate program, now is the perfect time! The first course starts October 20, 2025. Registration closes at noon Central Time on October 24, 2025. * Register for the IADP program * For more information, visit the IADP Homepage. Why Enroll in the IADP Program? This comprehensive program is designed for professionals across various sectors including, but not limited to, website developers, content creators, UI/UX designers, quality assurance specialists, eLearning specialists, instructional designers, IT specialists, and disability service providers. Through the IADP course sequence, you'll learn: * The principles of accessible information architecture and universal design tailored for use in education, healthcare, and industry. * Insights into federal and state legislation governing information accessibility and their impact on the civil rights of people with disabilities. * Key technology accessibility standards, effective design techniques, and tools to validate and ensure compliance. Program Highlights: * Flexible and Fully Online: Complete three 2-credit, 8-week courses over one academic year. * Open to All: Suitable for undergraduate, graduate, degree, or non-degree seeking students. * Globally Recognized: Approved by the International Association of Accessibility Professionals (IAAP) for CAEC Professional Development Credit. Testimonials from IADP Graduates * Kate Sonka, Executive Director for Teach Access. Teach Access Chief Credits Illinois IADP Program with Helping to Round Out Her Accessibility Knowledge and Skills * Jeffrey Yan, CEO and Co-founder of Digication, and Ratna Yelgoe, Senior Accessibility and Quality Assurance Engineer at Digication. Digication CEO Touts ?Top-Notch? IADP Online Certificate Program. For questions about the IADP program, please contact Marc Thompson (thompso1@illinois.edu). We look forward to learning with you! 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If you cannot make it to Denver for the onsite program, this year?s conference includes over 42 virtual sessions on specific topics such as creating accessible Office and PDF documents, web pages, multimedia, and Learning Management System pages. In addition, the upcoming ADA Title II requirements and the opportunities and challenges of AI will be a particular focus. *(View the program below)* *Register Here * *Highlights from this year?s event: * (Titles link to session descriptions) *Pre-Conference * *(Monday & Tuesday, November 17-18) * ? BYOD Lab: Managing the build of an accessible web site (2025) ? BYOD Lab: Mobile accessibility for web sites and native apps (2025) *Main Conference* ? WCAG, ACR, and VPAT oh my! Unlocking the ABC?s of procuring accessible products , Becky Gibson, Lead Accessibility Specialist, UKG ? Planning and Creating Accessible documents, media and other digital material Craig Boassaly, President, Eliquo Training & Development Incorporated ? AI and Digital Accessibility: The Good, The Bad, The Hopeful Aaron Arvig, Digital Accessibility Coordinator, State of Minnesota ? Web Accessibility Legal Update 2025 , Ken Nakata, Converge Accessibility? ? The Accessible Math Guide , Darrin Evans, North Carolina Community College System ? Navigating Procurement Accessibility: From VPATs to Vendor Credibility , Aaron Page, Allyant ? Shift Left, and Up *, *Rob Carr, Utah State University / WebAIM ? Update to the Mobile Accessibility Testing Guidelines , Gian Wild, AccessibilityOz *(**and 35 others* *)* More Information View the complete list of virtual sessions or register here . Conference site: https://accessinghigherground.org/virtual-2025/ Questions: Contact Howard Kramer, 720-351-8668 or hkramer@ahead.org . -- Regards, Howard Howard Kramer AHG Conference Director Accessing Higher Ground cell: 720-351-8668 Sign up to access the recordings from the *2024 Accessing Higher Ground Conference .* Sign up to our mailing list to receive announcements . Complete program information and registration is open for AHEAD's full line-up of Spring 2025 webinars . Registration is open for the 2025 AHEAD Conference in Denver, CO . July 14 - 18, 2025. Not yet a member of AHEAD? *We welcome you to join AHEAD now. * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Tue Oct 14 15:51:11 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Cath Stager via athen-list) Date: Tue Oct 14 15:51:18 2025 Subject: [Athen] AHG became ATHEN's Conference in 2002 Message-ID: Did you know ... ATHEN's inaugural meeting was held at CSUN where Howard Kramer offered Accessing Higher Ground (AHG) as the official conference for our newly formed professional group? Hopefully, we will be seeing you in Denver or online for AHG25. AHG 2025 isn't competing with other conferences. We're competing with your depleted PD budget, your understaffed team, the campus "fires" that make it impossible to focus on anything long-term, and the drain on your energy and resilience. Here's why we're worth it anyway. Our sessions give you the strategies and tools to get ahead of the crisis-driven workflow, so you can stop fighting fires and start building a more sustainable and resilient program. We need this gathering to sustain the work. The community is here to give you the support and expertise needed to focus on practical solutions that make a tangible difference back on your campus. Take advantage of your 15% discount and join us this November. 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URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Thu Oct 16 06:29:29 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (ELIZABETH KILLINGER via athen-list) Date: Thu Oct 16 06:29:43 2025 Subject: [Athen] [EXT] Microphone Options for student check-out In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It would easier to probably just to loan them an individual digital recorder and provide batteries. *Elizabeth Killinger* *Associate Coordinator* *FIT-ABLE | Office of Disability ServicesFashion Institute of Technology* David Dubinsky Student Center, A570 Phone: 212.217.4090 Website: fitnyc.edu/fitable On Wed, Oct 15, 2025, 6:16?PM Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) via athen-list wrote: > Hey all, > > > > I have a few students with a damaged or poor microphone on their phone or > computer. Anyone have a recommendation for a wireless microphone option for > students with a recording accommodation? > > > > Thanks > > > > *Eric Matson | Assistant Director - Assistive Technology & Accommodation > Operations * > > Center for Disability Access and Resources > > Division of Student Affairs > > The University of Idaho > > Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Message me on Teams > > > Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 > > Fax: 208.885.9404 > > Campus Zip: 4257 > > > > Treasurer ? Idaho Partnership on Higher Education and Disability > > Pronouns: He / Him / His > > > > This communication, including any attachments, is intended solely for the > entity or individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain > confidential information. If you have received this message in error, > please notify me immediately and delete this message. 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The student states that Canvas is not compatible with the switch technology and that she is unable to navigate Canvas. I am wondering if anyone in this group is familiar with Canvas accessibility/compatibility with AAC devices and could provide some perspective. Our college's ITS department felt that the Canvas app would be more user friendly, but that does not seem to be the case. Thank you! Alison Alison Brewer, M.Ed. | Coordinator of Disability Services, Access & Disability Services Bristol Community College | 777 Elsbree Street, Fall River, MA 02720 | L109 774.357.3687 direct | 774.357.2955 dept. Pronouns: She/Her/Hers My office is a SAFE ZONE for all. Work Hours: Monday - Friday 8:30 AM - 4:30 PM [/var/folders/z6/r6hv298j7yb9z4mpq32blxr5wv0t3c/T/com.microsoft.Outlook/WebArchiveCopyPasteTempFiles/cidimage001.png@01D43EB2.E3F7B6B0] Students-click here to book a virtual appointment! Click here to view Bristol's Access & Disability Services (ADS) webpage. 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Jane Berk Assistive Computer Technology Service Access and Disability Resources MacEwan University E: berkj@macewan.ca T: 780-497-5826 MacEwan.ca [cid:7f1facbb-35c2-46c4-955f-6363245b8be2] ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of ELIZABETH KILLINGER via athen-list Sent: October 16, 2025 7:29 AM To: Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Microphone Options for student check-out EXTERNAL: Use caution. It would easier to probably just to loan them an individual digital recorder and provide batteries. Elizabeth Killinger Associate Coordinator FIT-ABLE | Office of Disability Services Fashion Institute of Technology David Dubinsky Student Center, A570 Phone: 212.217.4090 Website: fitnyc.edu/fitable On Wed, Oct 15, 2025, 6:16?PM Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) via athen-list > wrote: Hey all, I have a few students with a damaged or poor microphone on their phone or computer. Anyone have a recommendation for a wireless microphone option for students with a recording accommodation? Thanks Eric Matson | Assistant Director - Assistive Technology & Accommodation Operations Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Message me on Teams Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Treasurer ? Idaho Partnership on Higher Education and Disability Pronouns: He / Him / His This communication, including any attachments, is intended solely for the entity or individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please notify me immediately and delete this message. 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Assistive Technology/Alternate Format Specialist (SDS) Phone: 410-516-1167 E-mail: krasul1@jhu.edu Garland Hall, 1st Floor, Office 135-G 3400 N. Charles Street Baltimore, MD 21218 Schedule a meeting with Kamran From: athen-list On Behalf Of ELIZABETH KILLINGER via athen-list Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2025 9:29 AM To: Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXT] Microphone Options for student check-out External Email - Use Caution It would easier to probably just to loan them an individual digital recorder and provide batteries. Elizabeth Killinger Associate Coordinator FIT-ABLE | Office of Disability Services Fashion Institute of Technology David Dubinsky Student Center, A570 Phone: 212.217.4090 Website: fitnyc.edu/fitable On Wed, Oct 15, 2025, 6:16?PM Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) via athen-list > wrote: Hey all, I have a few students with a damaged or poor microphone on their phone or computer. Anyone have a recommendation for a wireless microphone option for students with a recording accommodation? Thanks Eric Matson | Assistant Director - Assistive Technology & Accommodation Operations Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Message me on Teams Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Treasurer ? Idaho Partnership on Higher Education and Disability Pronouns: He / Him / His This communication, including any attachments, is intended solely for the entity or individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please notify me immediately and delete this message. 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We are wanting to compile accessible options to offer as alternatives for a wide variety of subject areas. Thanks in advance for sharing! Warmly, Ali Steenis Pronouns: she/hers Alternative Formats Access Specialist, Disability Resource Center (DRC) 3000 Landerholm Circle SE, Room U001 Bellevue, WA 98007 Phone: (425)-564-2605 TTY: (425)-564-6189 FAX: (425)-564-5110 drc@bellevuecollege.edu www.bellevuecollege.edu/drc This email and any files transmitted may contain confidential information as protected by the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA), 20 USC ? 1232g and/or Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. ? 2510-2521. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution is prohibited. Furthermore, if you are not the intended recipient, please notify me immediately by telephone or return e-mail and completely delete this message from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Mon Oct 20 15:16:46 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (via athen-list) Date: Mon Oct 20 15:17:03 2025 Subject: [Athen] Accessible Textbook Platforms? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <013201dc420f$39d3d980$ad7b8c80$@montana.com> Hello The DAISY Consortium conducts extensive testing of reading systems. The results of our testing can be seen here: https://www.epubtest.org/results We would be happy to test other reading systems. It normally requires their collaboration; we have the test EPUB files available that they ingest and we then test on their platforms. Please help us get in touch with others you would like to see tested. Happy to answer any questions. Best George George Kerscher Ph.D. -In our Information Age, access to information is a fundamental human right. Chief Innovations Officer, DAISY Consortium http://www.daisy.org Senior Advisor, Global Literacy, Benetech http://www.benetech.org President, International Digital Publishing Forum (IDPF) http://www.idpf.org Chair Steering Council Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI), at W3C http://www.w3.org/WAI Cell:+1 406/544-2466 Email: kerscher@montana.com From: athen-list On Behalf Of Ali Steenis via athen-list Sent: Monday, October 20, 2025 4:03 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Accessible Textbook Platforms? Hi all, We often talk a lot about the accessibility issues in major textbook platforms like Pearson?s My Math Lab or McGraw Hill Connect. Have you found any publisher platforms or other online learning that are accessible for blind and low vision students? We are wanting to compile accessible options to offer as alternatives for a wide variety of subject areas. Thanks in advance for sharing! Warmly, Ali Steenis Pronouns: she/hers Alternative Formats Access Specialist, Disability Resource Center (DRC) 3000 Landerholm Circle SE, Room U001 Bellevue, WA 98007 Phone: (425)-564-2605 TTY: (425)-564-6189 FAX: (425)-564-5110 drc@bellevuecollege.edu www.bellevuecollege.edu/drc This email and any files transmitted may contain confidential information as protected by the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA), 20 USC ? 1232g and/or Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. ? 2510-2521. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution is prohibited. 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A Hybrid Event Hilton Denver City Center, Denver, Colorado (& Virtually) This year?s event includes over 42 virtual and 110 onsite sessions on specific topics such as creating accessible Office documents, PDFs, video, and LMS pages. In addition, the upcoming ADA Title II requirements and the opportunities and challenges of AI will be a particular focus. *(View the program below)* *Register Here* *Highlights from this year?s event: * (Titles link to session descriptions) *Pre-Conference * *(Monday & Tuesday, November 17-18) * ? BYOD Lab: Managing the build of an accessible web site (2025) ? BYOD Lab: Mobile accessibility for web sites and native apps (2025) *Main Conference* ? WCAG, ACR, and VPAT oh my! Unlocking the ABC?s of procuring accessible products , Becky Gibson, Lead Accessibility Specialist, UKG ? Planning and Creating Accessible documents, media and other digital material Craig Boassaly, President, Eliquo Training & Development Incorporated ? AI and Digital Accessibility: The Good, The Bad, The Hopeful Aaron Arvig, Digital Accessibility Coordinator, State of Minnesota ? Web Accessibility Legal Update 2025 , Ken Nakata, Converge Accessibility? ? The Accessible Math Guide , Darrin Evans, North Carolina Community College System ? Navigating Procurement Accessibility: From VPATs to Vendor Credibility , Aaron Page, Allyant ? Shift Left, and Up *, *Rob Carr, Utah State University / WebAIM ? Update to the Mobile Accessibility Testing Guidelines , Gian Wild, AccessibilityOz *(**and 35 others* *)* More Information Pricing View the complete list of virtual sessions or register here . Conference site: https://accessinghigherground.org/virtual-2025/ Questions: Contact Howard Kramer, 720-351-8668 or hkramer@ahead.org . -- Regards, Howard Howard Kramer AHG Conference Director Accessing Higher Ground cell: 720-351-8668 Sign up to access the recordings from the *2024 Accessing Higher Ground Conference .* Sign up to our mailing list to receive announcements . Complete program information and registration is open for AHEAD's full line-up of Spring 2025 webinars . Registration is open for the 2025 AHEAD Conference in Denver, CO . July 14 - 18, 2025. Not yet a member of AHEAD? *We welcome you to join AHEAD now. * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Tue Oct 21 08:47:07 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Deborah Armstrong via athen-list) Date: Tue Oct 21 08:47:16 2025 Subject: [Athen] Accessible Textbook Platforms? (long) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What I want to say about this, is more opinion than fact. Definitely spend some time with George's epub tests. As a screen reader user I've found BryteWave/RedShelf (I think they are the same-- easy to use. Also VitalSource. I also can cope with Adobe Digital Edditions but wish it showed more of a book's structure to the screen reader user. George likes Thorium which can read unprotected EPUB books. I have found both the eBook platforms integrated in to labs from Pearson and McGraw-Hill work well for me also. But this has not been the experience of many of my students. In cases of blind and low-vision users, it seems they don't have the advanced screen reader skills to work effectively with these platforms. They get lost in the toolbars, sidebars, footers and the like. You need a firm grasp of jumping to, in and around html elements to be successful with these platforms. Another issue is how these platforms want to show you a little section at a time, so you are always trying to locate the next button or the table of contents button. Learning to use bookmarks for web navigation can help there. Sometimes, if you can get the book in a reasonable format and convert it to something the student knows, like Word, that student will be more successful. But Word is not my favorite platform for reading either. For one thing, it's a word processor, so the wrong keypress can modify the document. Also Word will insert soft page breaks, messing up pagination. The first thing I do if I have a textbook converted to Word is to save it as HTMl, making it accessible and read-only. The biggest problem I think our non-techie students have is the constant requirement to change reading platforms. One semester it's Pearson. Next it is VitalSource or RedShelf. Next it's some weird publisher-supplied platform that none of the DSS staff has ever heard of. And then, the instructor puts his own book in google docs, or it's in libretext, Openstaxor Merlot or someplace else on OER commons. This is particularly a big deal for my learning disabled students. Having to switch to and master a new platform is very stressful even though, unlike blind students, they can use a mouse. So the biggest barrier I think is not the platforms, though not all are accessible of course, but the mastery of tech skills. For one recent example, one of my blind students complained his book was inaccessible. It was an OER textbook on the Libretext platform. He went to the platform, arrowed down to "download PDF" selected that, and presto, an inaccessible PDF appear. It was over 500 pages, so asking JAWS to OCR it would not have been a fun experience. Next he pulled up the page on his iPhone. Again he did "download PDF" knowing it would appear in Apple books. It did, but it was still just an image. I went to the platform scrolled past "download PDF" wen to an unlabeled button and chose it. The table of contents appears, I selected various sections, opening each in a different tab. The book was fully accessible after all, and even included some picture descriptions. It was the button to pull up the table of contents and the accessible text-based HTML view of the book that was inaccessible; One lousy little button was the only inaccessible thing! My student's problem was impatience! A couple of tips: be sure to look for "text view" or some other clue that when an image of a page is displayed, the platform also has a way to read the book as text. For example, a Pearson lab I used showed the book as page images. I was poking around looking for some study aids, when I found a link labeled "accessible resources". When I chose it, the full text of the book appeared, and the link to it was outside of the paywall!!! So you really have to explore and poke around before you determine that the thing is not accessible even when the default presentation of an eBook might be. If your book has images and your student is blind, teach them to use AI to get good descriptions. Sure, AI hallucinates, but we can hallucinate too when listening to a human describe. With the latest CoPilot app, you can actually share your screen and chat with it voice-to voice, asking it to tell you about a graph; it will even tell you to scroll up or down so it can "see" the image better. JAWS has Picture Smart and there are several NVDA add-ons utilizing AI for image description. Consider too, if your student prefers a device for reading and if you can extract the book from the publisher, that they might be happier reading it on their phone, in Kurzweil 3000 or 1000, on a Victor reader stream, or a Braille display. One of my long-term sighted students is in love with his Plextalk player, which these days is pretty deprecated. I cannot always format a book for his player, but I try! Some students simply cannot look at a book for long periods, but they can see, and we should respect that they want to use their vision. Maybe all they need is for you to point out the "read out loud" button in the platform and that makes it accessible for that student, even though it is generally considered an inaccessible platform. Maybe they should buy or rent the electronic version on Amazon and have Alexa read it to them while they look at specific sections in their browser or their Amazon device. I've rented textbooks on my Fire tablet and read them without trouble and saved a lot of money too. But if it is stuck inside an online platform, and a power user of a screen reader can access it, then I'd generally call that platform accessible. Remember too, that if there is a text view, all those apps and browser extensions that "read the web" with synthesized speech are useful for low-vision and learning disabled students. For English and humanities, especially you can often borrow the book from a local library so any student majoring in these subjects should procure many library cards. As a lover of science fiction and someone who uses a Fire tablet, and borrows tons of eBooks from libraries, I have a lot less trouble with diverse reading platforms than either my blind or learning disabled students. The desire to fuel my reading addiction has forced my screen reader competence in to a higher plane, because if I don't have something to read always, I'm in serious withdrawal. But the vast majority of students I serve dislike reading, which already reduces their ability to work with eBooks wherever they are located. "If you like horror flicks", I tell them, "Read some Stephen King over the summer using your library card and don't wait to master online platforms until you have to". --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hopefully, the student would then be able to explore solutions on their own and identify support groups to help solve the issues they will face throughout their lives. Best George Best George From: athen-list On Behalf Of Deborah Armstrong via athen-list Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2025 9:47 AM To: Ali Steenis ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible Textbook Platforms? (long) What I want to say about this, is more opinion than fact. Definitely spend some time with George's epub tests. As a screen reader user I've found BryteWave/RedShelf (I think they are the same-- easy to use. Also VitalSource. I also can cope with Adobe Digital Edditions but wish it showed more of a book's structure to the screen reader user. George likes Thorium which can read unprotected EPUB books. I have found both the eBook platforms integrated in to labs from Pearson and McGraw-Hill work well for me also. But this has not been the experience of many of my students. In cases of blind and low-vision users, it seems they don't have the advanced screen reader skills to work effectively with these platforms. They get lost in the toolbars, sidebars, footers and the like. You need a firm grasp of jumping to, in and around html elements to be successful with these platforms. Another issue is how these platforms want to show you a little section at a time, so you are always trying to locate the next button or the table of contents button. Learning to use bookmarks for web navigation can help there. Sometimes, if you can get the book in a reasonable format and convert it to something the student knows, like Word, that student will be more successful. But Word is not my favorite platform for reading either. For one thing, it's a word processor, so the wrong keypress can modify the document. Also Word will insert soft page breaks, messing up pagination. The first thing I do if I have a textbook converted to Word is to save it as HTMl, making it accessible and read-only. The biggest problem I think our non-techie students have is the constant requirement to change reading platforms. One semester it's Pearson. Next it is VitalSource or RedShelf. Next it's some weird publisher-supplied platform that none of the DSS staff has ever heard of. And then, the instructor puts his own book in google docs, or it's in libretext, Openstaxor Merlot or someplace else on OER commons. This is particularly a big deal for my learning disabled students. Having to switch to and master a new platform is very stressful even though, unlike blind students, they can use a mouse. So the biggest barrier I think is not the platforms, though not all are accessible of course, but the mastery of tech skills. For one recent example, one of my blind students complained his book was inaccessible. It was an OER textbook on the Libretext platform. He went to the platform, arrowed down to "download PDF" selected that, and presto, an inaccessible PDF appear. It was over 500 pages, so asking JAWS to OCR it would not have been a fun experience. Next he pulled up the page on his iPhone. Again he did "download PDF" knowing it would appear in Apple books. It did, but it was still just an image. I went to the platform scrolled past "download PDF" wen to an unlabeled button and chose it. The table of contents appears, I selected various sections, opening each in a different tab. The book was fully accessible after all, and even included some picture descriptions. It was the button to pull up the table of contents and the accessible text-based HTML view of the book that was inaccessible; One lousy little button was the only inaccessible thing! My student's problem was impatience! A couple of tips: be sure to look for "text view" or some other clue that when an image of a page is displayed, the platform also has a way to read the book as text. For example, a Pearson lab I used showed the book as page images. I was poking around looking for some study aids, when I found a link labeled "accessible resources". When I chose it, the full text of the book appeared, and the link to it was outside of the paywall!!! So you really have to explore and poke around before you determine that the thing is not accessible even when the default presentation of an eBook might be. If your book has images and your student is blind, teach them to use AI to get good descriptions. Sure, AI hallucinates, but we can hallucinate too when listening to a human describe. With the latest CoPilot app, you can actually share your screen and chat with it voice-to voice, asking it to tell you about a graph; it will even tell you to scroll up or down so it can "see" the image better. JAWS has Picture Smart and there are several NVDA add-ons utilizing AI for image description. Consider too, if your student prefers a device for reading and if you can extract the book from the publisher, that they might be happier reading it on their phone, in Kurzweil 3000 or 1000, on a Victor reader stream, or a Braille display. One of my long-term sighted students is in love with his Plextalk player, which these days is pretty deprecated. I cannot always format a book for his player, but I try! Some students simply cannot look at a book for long periods, but they can see, and we should respect that they want to use their vision. Maybe all they need is for you to point out the "read out loud" button in the platform and that makes it accessible for that student, even though it is generally considered an inaccessible platform. Maybe they should buy or rent the electronic version on Amazon and have Alexa read it to them while they look at specific sections in their browser or their Amazon device. I've rented textbooks on my Fire tablet and read them without trouble and saved a lot of money too. But if it is stuck inside an online platform, and a power user of a screen reader can access it, then I'd generally call that platform accessible. Remember too, that if there is a text view, all those apps and browser extensions that "read the web" with synthesized speech are useful for low-vision and learning disabled students. For English and humanities, especially you can often borrow the book from a local library so any student majoring in these subjects should procure many library cards. As a lover of science fiction and someone who uses a Fire tablet, and borrows tons of eBooks from libraries, I have a lot less trouble with diverse reading platforms than either my blind or learning disabled students. The desire to fuel my reading addiction has forced my screen reader competence in to a higher plane, because if I don't have something to read always, I'm in serious withdrawal. But the vast majority of students I serve dislike reading, which already reduces their ability to work with eBooks wherever they are located. "If you like horror flicks", I tell them, "Read some Stephen King over the summer using your library card and don't wait to master online platforms until you have to". --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Tue Oct 21 16:58:54 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Joshua Hori via athen-list) Date: Tue Oct 21 16:59:00 2025 Subject: [Athen] Accessible Textbook Platforms? (long) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry about that Debee. While that Libretexts Download as PDF doesn?t work for students, it does for editors. It?s a known issue that?s being worked on. I?ll put in a request to have those unlabeled buttons fixed. If you need access to Libretexts as an editor, please feel free to reach out and we?ll get you started. We?ve built an accessibility tool within the Libretexts platform which authors can use if needed. Notion notes on Libretexts Accessibility Checker. Best, Joshua Hori Accessible Technology Coordinator Information Educational Technology Academic Technology Services 50 Hutchison Dr. Davis, CA 95616 530-752-2439 Schedule a meeting via Calendly From: athen-list on behalf of Deborah Armstrong via athen-list Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2025 at 8:48?AM To: Ali Steenis , Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Accessible Textbook Platforms? (long) What I want to say about this, is more opinion than fact. Definitely spend some time with George?s epub tests. As a screen reader user I?ve found BryteWave/RedShelf (I think they are the same-- easy to use. Also VitalSource. I also can cope with Adobe Digital Edditions but wish it showed more of a book?s structure to the screen reader user. George likes Thorium which can read unprotected EPUB books. I have found both the eBook platforms integrated in to labs from Pearson and McGraw-Hill work well for me also. But this has not been the experience of many of my students. In cases of blind and low-vision users, it seems they don?t have the advanced screen reader skills to work effectively with these platforms. They get lost in the toolbars, sidebars, footers and the like. You need a firm grasp of jumping to, in and around html elements to be successful with these platforms. Another issue is how these platforms want to show you a little section at a time, so you are always trying to locate the next button or the table of contents button. Learning to use bookmarks for web navigation can help there. Sometimes, if you can get the book in a reasonable format and convert it to something the student knows, like Word, that student will be more successful. But Word is not my favorite platform for reading either. For one thing, it?s a word processor, so the wrong keypress can modify the document. Also Word will insert soft page breaks, messing up pagination. The first thing I do if I have a textbook converted to Word is to save it as HTMl, making it accessible and read-only. The biggest problem I think our non-techie students have is the constant requirement to change reading platforms. One semester it?s Pearson. Next it is VitalSource or RedShelf. Next it?s some weird publisher-supplied platform that none of the DSS staff has ever heard of. And then, the instructor puts his own book in google docs, or it?s in libretext, Openstaxor Merlot or someplace else on OER commons. This is particularly a big deal for my learning disabled students. Having to switch to and master a new platform is very stressful even though, unlike blind students, they can use a mouse. So the biggest barrier I think is not the platforms, though not all are accessible of course, but the mastery of tech skills. For one recent example, one of my blind students complained his book was inaccessible. It was an OER textbook on the Libretext platform. He went to the platform, arrowed down to ?download PDF? selected that, and presto, an inaccessible PDF appear. It was over 500 pages, so asking JAWS to OCR it would not have been a fun experience. Next he pulled up the page on his iPhone. Again he did ?download PDF? knowing it would appear in Apple books. It did, but it was still just an image. I went to the platform scrolled past ?download PDF? wen to an unlabeled button and chose it. The table of contents appears, I selected various sections, opening each in a different tab. The book was fully accessible after all, and even included some picture descriptions. It was the button to pull up the table of contents and the accessible text-based HTML view of the book that was inaccessible; One lousy little button was the only inaccessible thing! My student?s problem was impatience! A couple of tips: be sure to look for ?text view? or some other clue that when an image of a page is displayed, the platform also has a way to read the book as text. For example, a Pearson lab I used showed the book as page images. I was poking around looking for some study aids, when I found a link labeled ?accessible resources?. When I chose it, the full text of the book appeared, and the link to it was outside of the paywall!!! So you really have to explore and poke around before you determine that the thing is not accessible even when the default presentation of an eBook might be. If your book has images and your student is blind, teach them to use AI to get good descriptions. Sure, AI hallucinates, but we can hallucinate too when listening to a human describe. With the latest CoPilot app, you can actually share your screen and chat with it voice-to voice, asking it to tell you about a graph; it will even tell you to scroll up or down so it can ?see? the image better. JAWS has Picture Smart and there are several NVDA add-ons utilizing AI for image description. Consider too, if your student prefers a device for reading and if you can extract the book from the publisher, that they might be happier reading it on their phone, in Kurzweil 3000 or 1000, on a Victor reader stream, or a Braille display. One of my long-term sighted students is in love with his Plextalk player, which these days is pretty deprecated. I cannot always format a book for his player, but I try! Some students simply cannot look at a book for long periods, but they can see, and we should respect that they want to use their vision. Maybe all they need is for you to point out the ?read out loud? button in the platform and that makes it accessible for that student, even though it is generally considered an inaccessible platform. Maybe they should buy or rent the electronic version on Amazon and have Alexa read it to them while they look at specific sections in their browser or their Amazon device. I?ve rented textbooks on my Fire tablet and read them without trouble and saved a lot of money too. But if it is stuck inside an online platform, and a power user of a screen reader can access it, then I?d generally call that platform accessible. Remember too, that if there is a text view, all those apps and browser extensions that ?read the web? with synthesized speech are useful for low-vision and learning disabled students. For English and humanities, especially you can often borrow the book from a local library so any student majoring in these subjects should procure many library cards. As a lover of science fiction and someone who uses a Fire tablet, and borrows tons of eBooks from libraries, I have a lot less trouble with diverse reading platforms than either my blind or learning disabled students. The desire to fuel my reading addiction has forced my screen reader competence in to a higher plane, because if I don?t have something to read always, I?m in serious withdrawal. But the vast majority of students I serve dislike reading, which already reduces their ability to work with eBooks wherever they are located. ?If you like horror flicks?, I tell them, ?Read some Stephen King over the summer using your library card and don?t wait to master online platforms until you have to?. --Debee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Mon Oct 27 13:40:26 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Mark Weiler via athen-list) Date: Mon Oct 27 13:40:44 2025 Subject: [Athen] Community embossers Message-ID: I attended a talk by some librarians from Kwantlen Polytechnic University in BC, where they have a community embosser. It can be used by anyone, whether from the university or the wider community. It's set up like a regular self-serve printer and public workstation. People can send a print job to the embosser like they can send a job to a laser printer. There are supports to learn how to print it. What I find interesting was a how the community is using it. They told a story of how someone from the community learned about the embosser and came in to have a wedding invitation embossed. Does anyone know of other examples of community embossers? 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It is akin to having a customized electric wheelchair and arriving at one retail store that tells you that you'll need to leave your chair by the door and instead use their electric scooter...and to make things worse, the joystick may be on the wrong side, work differently that your controller did and the seating also is not set up to your particular needs. Perhaps many of these installed overlays are better set up to not have their screen reader talking as you land on the site but instead expect the user to toggle it on, then proceed. Most features these overlays have are either built in to the operating system, or available in the web browser or lastly what you'd use in almost all cases on your computer activities and not just at one site. Doug Hayman IT Accessibility Coordinator Information Technology Olympic College dhayman@olympic.edu (360) 475-7632 From: athen-list On Behalf Of Tisha L. Marzewski via athen-list Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2025 8:47 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [EXTERNAL] - [Athen] Demonstration of accessibility overlay CAUTION: This email came from a non-OC system or external source. Beware of phishing and social engineering! Hello everyone, curious to know if there is a video demonstrating how accessibility overlays interfere with an user's own accessibility software. Can anyone direct me to anything? I have found alot of videos talking about why and how accessibility overlays do not help, but have not came across a recorded demonstration. Thanks so much, Tisha. Tisha L Marzewski | Coordinator of Disability Services Arkansas State University-Beebe tlmarzewski@asub.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Can anyone direct me to anything? I have found alot of videos talking about why and how accessibility overlays do not help, but have not came across a recorded demonstration. Thanks so much, Tisha. Tisha L Marzewski | Coordinator of Disability Services Arkansas State University-Beebe tlmarzewski@asub.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 16012 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Wed Oct 29 16:38:53 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Sebastian M Niles via athen-list) Date: Wed Oct 29 16:38:59 2025 Subject: [Athen] A Small Rant About Livescribe Message-ID: Hello all I'm emailing with a big complaint about Livescribe and wanted to see if anyone had a similar experience. In the past, our university has ordered Livescribe Echo pens for students that love taking their own notes and want to record as well. The Echo 2s were awesome even if they also tried to get you to connect to a bad app (foreshadowing!!). Fast forward to now. It appears that Livescribe has discontinued the Echo 2 and is now selling the Livepen (and also trying to get people to use Inq for some reason). The problem with the Livepen is that it doesn't have a built-in recorder, and it forces you to use the Livepen app if you want to use any of its potential features. As I said before, the app isn't great. I don't feel great about making students rely on it when they wanted an offline notetaking option in the first place. All of this is a roundabout way of saying that I have no idea what Livescribe is trying to do here. Why would they abandon the feature that everyone turned to them for in the first place? Why are they still selling notebook paper with options to "record", "pause", and "stop" if the Livepens can't record outside of the app? Who is the target audience here? Does anyone have good alternatives to Livescribe? I'm not talking about Otter or Genio. I'm looking for something that does what the Echo 2 did. I know I could just give students a digital recorder and call it a day, but I'm hoping that there is some hidden tool that is still committed to doing what Livescribe did. Thank you Sebastian Niles, CPACC Accessible Technology Specialist Student Disability Center University of California-Davis Davis, CA 95616 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Wed Oct 29 16:55:11 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Will Pines via athen-list) Date: Wed Oct 29 16:55:30 2025 Subject: [Athen] A Small Rant About Livescribe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sebastian, I have the same questions. From what I?ve gathered, the Livepen is also going obsolete or going out of production soon so Inq can introduce *their* own version of the pen. In just the past six months, two pens have gone out of production, the notebooks no longer function properly, and the apps are terrible. Inq is still *Livescribe* ? not a new company that acquired them. It appears to be more of a rebrand to erase the failure of the last two smart pens. I?ve started looking into other bulk options that don?t require an app and still keep the note-taking system within the pen itself. Unfortunately, the industry seems to have shifted toward personal products that rely on a tablet or smart device, yet don?t even perform the basic function of recording audio directly on the pen. I asked Inq if they would send us a pilot Livepen for a trial so we could evaluate its viability and provide feedback. They declined and said we could purchase a pack of ten instead. Interestingly, someone in an assistive technology group I?m part of (based in Canada) mentioned that Inq sent them a single pen for review?but they ultimately decided it wasn?t worth pursuing. Best, *WILL PINES*, *Disability Specialist* Accessible Technology Specialist Student Disability Resource Center *he/him/his* University of California, Riverside 900 University Avenue 1228 Student Services Building Riverside, CA 92521 Phone: 951-827-3861 | Email: wilbert.pines@ucr.edu Schedule an Appointment SDRC Web | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter ?A mind stretched by new experiences will never go back to its original dimensions.? On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 4:40?PM Sebastian M Niles via athen-list < athen-list@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Hello all > > I'm emailing with a big complaint about Livescribe and wanted to see if > anyone had a similar experience. In the past, our university has ordered > Livescribe Echo pens for students that love taking their own notes and want > to record as well. The Echo 2s were awesome even if they also tried to get > you to connect to a bad app (foreshadowing!!). > > Fast forward to now. It appears that Livescribe has discontinued the Echo > 2 and is now selling the Livepen (and also trying to get people to use Inq > for some reason). The problem with the Livepen is that it doesn't have a > built-in recorder, and it forces you to use the Livepen app if you want to > use any of its potential features. As I said before, the app isn't great. I > don't feel great about making students rely on it when they wanted an > offline notetaking option in the first place. All of this is a roundabout > way of saying that I have no idea what Livescribe is trying to do here. Why > would they abandon the feature that everyone turned to them for in the > first place? Why are they still selling notebook paper with options to > "record", "pause", and "stop" if the Livepens can't record outside of the > app? Who is the target audience here? > > Does anyone have good alternatives to Livescribe? I'm not talking about > Otter or Genio. I'm looking for something that does what the Echo 2 did. I > know I could just give students a digital recorder and call it a day, but > I'm hoping that there is some hidden tool that is still committed to doing > what Livescribe did. > > Thank you > > Sebastian Niles, CPACC > > Accessible Technology Specialist > > Student Disability Center > > University of California-Davis > > Davis, CA 95616 > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman22.u.washington.edu > http://mailman22.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Wed Oct 29 17:41:07 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Kamran Rasul via athen-list) Date: Wed Oct 29 17:41:16 2025 Subject: [Athen] A Small Rant About Livescribe In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Thanks for initiating this conversation? Aside from tablets with digital pens and apps that support audio syncing, are there any other alternatives to scribing math and science lectures? [cid:image001.png@01DC4914.1A68C680] Kamran Rasul, MEd. Assistive Technology/Alternate Format Specialist (SDS) Phone: 410-516-1167 E-mail: krasul1@jhu.edu Garland Hall, 1st Floor, Office 135-G 3400 N. Charles Street Baltimore, MD 21218 Schedule a meeting with Kamran From: athen-list On Behalf Of Will Pines via athen-list Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2025 7:55 PM To: Sebastian M Niles ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] A Small Rant About Livescribe External Email - Use Caution Sebastian, I have the same questions. From what I?ve gathered, the Livepen is also going obsolete or going out of production soon so Inq can introduce their own version of the pen. In just the past six months, two pens have gone out of production, the notebooks no longer function properly, and the apps are terrible. Inq is still Livescribe ? not a new company that acquired them. It appears to be more of a rebrand to erase the failure of the last two smart pens. I?ve started looking into other bulk options that don?t require an app and still keep the note-taking system within the pen itself. Unfortunately, the industry seems to have shifted toward personal products that rely on a tablet or smart device, yet don?t even perform the basic function of recording audio directly on the pen. I asked Inq if they would send us a pilot Livepen for a trial so we could evaluate its viability and provide feedback. They declined and said we could purchase a pack of ten instead. Interestingly, someone in an assistive technology group I?m part of (based in Canada) mentioned that Inq sent them a single pen for review?but they ultimately decided it wasn?t worth pursuing. Best, WILL PINES, Disability Specialist Accessible Technology Specialist Student Disability Resource Center he/him/his University of California, Riverside 900 University Avenue 1228 Student Services Building Riverside, CA 92521 Phone: 951-827-3861 | Email: wilbert.pines@ucr.edu Schedule an Appointment SDRC Web | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter ?A mind stretched by new experiences will never go back to its original dimensions.? [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xQkUPdyj4ARXT4TlxZCK5gtxDaiRPTyPCmYa30RanDUHhobc4beMmCjvNZM7_Au3jFky6p3QfM_VFY] On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 4:40?PM Sebastian M Niles via athen-list > wrote: Hello all I'm emailing with a big complaint about Livescribe and wanted to see if anyone had a similar experience. In the past, our university has ordered Livescribe Echo pens for students that love taking their own notes and want to record as well. The Echo 2s were awesome even if they also tried to get you to connect to a bad app (foreshadowing!!). Fast forward to now. It appears that Livescribe has discontinued the Echo 2 and is now selling the Livepen (and also trying to get people to use Inq for some reason). The problem with the Livepen is that it doesn't have a built-in recorder, and it forces you to use the Livepen app if you want to use any of its potential features. As I said before, the app isn't great. I don't feel great about making students rely on it when they wanted an offline notetaking option in the first place. All of this is a roundabout way of saying that I have no idea what Livescribe is trying to do here. Why would they abandon the feature that everyone turned to them for in the first place? Why are they still selling notebook paper with options to "record", "pause", and "stop" if the Livepens can't record outside of the app? Who is the target audience here? Does anyone have good alternatives to Livescribe? I'm not talking about Otter or Genio. I'm looking for something that does what the Echo 2 did. I know I could just give students a digital recorder and call it a day, but I'm hoping that there is some hidden tool that is still committed to doing what Livescribe did. Thank you Sebastian Niles, CPACC Accessible Technology Specialist Student Disability Center University of California-Davis Davis, CA 95616 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman22.u.washington.edu http://mailman22.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If anyone has experience with these devices, there might be possibility for these to be good replacements for people who have LiveScribe SmartPen inventories. * Neo Smart Pen- $139 per pen + $15-20 per notebook https://shop.neosmartpen.com/products/neo-smartpen-a1 * Moleskin Smart - $279 per set (includes Pen, Notebook, Ink Cartridge) https://www.moleskine.com/en-us/shop/moleskine-smart/smart-writing-system/smart-writing-system/smart-writing-set-black-8056999274795.html Thanks All, David Vrooman [cid:d225bb0b-0f6b-493b-9f85-d4eaca7d11c9] Learning Support Services - Assistive Technology Specialist Washtenaw Community College 4800 E. Huron River Drive, LA 115 Ann Arbor, MI 48105 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Kamran Rasul via athen-list Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2025 8:41 PM To: 'Will Pines' ; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' ; 'Sebastian M Niles' Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] A Small Rant About Livescribe ** WARNING: This email originated from outside of the WCC organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. ** Hi, Thanks for initiating this conversation? Aside from tablets with digital pens and apps that support audio syncing, are there any other alternatives to scribing math and science lectures? [cid:image001.png@01DC4914.1A68C680] Kamran Rasul, MEd. Assistive Technology/Alternate Format Specialist (SDS) Phone: 410-516-1167 E-mail: krasul1@jhu.edu Garland Hall, 1st Floor, Office 135-G 3400 N. Charles Street Baltimore, MD 21218 Schedule a meeting with Kamran From: athen-list On Behalf Of Will Pines via athen-list Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2025 7:55 PM To: Sebastian M Niles ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] A Small Rant About Livescribe External Email - Use Caution Sebastian, I have the same questions. From what I?ve gathered, the Livepen is also going obsolete or going out of production soon so Inq can introduce their own version of the pen. In just the past six months, two pens have gone out of production, the notebooks no longer function properly, and the apps are terrible. Inq is still Livescribe ? not a new company that acquired them. It appears to be more of a rebrand to erase the failure of the last two smart pens. I?ve started looking into other bulk options that don?t require an app and still keep the note-taking system within the pen itself. Unfortunately, the industry seems to have shifted toward personal products that rely on a tablet or smart device, yet don?t even perform the basic function of recording audio directly on the pen. I asked Inq if they would send us a pilot Livepen for a trial so we could evaluate its viability and provide feedback. They declined and said we could purchase a pack of ten instead. Interestingly, someone in an assistive technology group I?m part of (based in Canada) mentioned that Inq sent them a single pen for review?but they ultimately decided it wasn?t worth pursuing. Best, WILL PINES, Disability Specialist Accessible Technology Specialist Student Disability Resource Center he/him/his University of California, Riverside 900 University Avenue 1228 Student Services Building Riverside, CA 92521 Phone: 951-827-3861 | Email: wilbert.pines@ucr.edu Schedule an Appointment SDRC Web | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter ?A mind stretched by new experiences will never go back to its original dimensions.? [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xQkUPdyj4ARXT4TlxZCK5gtxDaiRPTyPCmYa30RanDUHhobc4beMmCjvNZM7_Au3jFky6p3QfM_VFY] On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 4:40?PM Sebastian M Niles via athen-list > wrote: Hello all I'm emailing with a big complaint about Livescribe and wanted to see if anyone had a similar experience. In the past, our university has ordered Livescribe Echo pens for students that love taking their own notes and want to record as well. The Echo 2s were awesome even if they also tried to get you to connect to a bad app (foreshadowing!!). Fast forward to now. It appears that Livescribe has discontinued the Echo 2 and is now selling the Livepen (and also trying to get people to use Inq for some reason). The problem with the Livepen is that it doesn't have a built-in recorder, and it forces you to use the Livepen app if you want to use any of its potential features. As I said before, the app isn't great. I don't feel great about making students rely on it when they wanted an offline notetaking option in the first place. All of this is a roundabout way of saying that I have no idea what Livescribe is trying to do here. Why would they abandon the feature that everyone turned to them for in the first place? Why are they still selling notebook paper with options to "record", "pause", and "stop" if the Livepens can't record outside of the app? Who is the target audience here? Does anyone have good alternatives to Livescribe? I'm not talking about Otter or Genio. I'm looking for something that does what the Echo 2 did. I know I could just give students a digital recorder and call it a day, but I'm hoping that there is some hidden tool that is still committed to doing what Livescribe did. Thank you Sebastian Niles, CPACC Accessible Technology Specialist Student Disability Center University of California-Davis Davis, CA 95616 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman22.u.washington.edu http://mailman22.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 16012 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Take care, Allison Swanson AT-IT Coordinator & Accessibility Facilitator Assistive Technology Resource Center Colorado State University [Assistive Technology Resource Center (ATRC), Colorado State University] ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Vrooman,David via athen-list Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2025 6:13 AM To: 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' ; 'Sebastian M Niles' Subject: Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL] Re: A Small Rant About Livescribe ** Caution: EXTERNAL Sender ** Hi All, We have been facing the same issues with the LiveScribe pens (we use the Echo 1 model) not being available anymore. We have had issues with the notebooks not being printed with enough contrast for the control icons to work consistently. I found two similar products, but have not tested either. If anyone has experience with these devices, there might be possibility for these to be good replacements for people who have LiveScribe SmartPen inventories. * Neo Smart Pen- $139 per pen + $15-20 per notebook https://shop.neosmartpen.com/products/neo-smartpen-a1 * Moleskin Smart - $279 per set (includes Pen, Notebook, Ink Cartridge) https://www.moleskine.com/en-us/shop/moleskine-smart/smart-writing-system/smart-writing-system/smart-writing-set-black-8056999274795.html Thanks All, David Vrooman [cid:d225bb0b-0f6b-493b-9f85-d4eaca7d11c9] Learning Support Services - Assistive Technology Specialist Washtenaw Community College 4800 E. Huron River Drive, LA 115 Ann Arbor, MI 48105 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Kamran Rasul via athen-list Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2025 8:41 PM To: 'Will Pines' ; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' ; 'Sebastian M Niles' Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Athen] A Small Rant About Livescribe ** WARNING: This email originated from outside of the WCC organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. ** Hi, Thanks for initiating this conversation? Aside from tablets with digital pens and apps that support audio syncing, are there any other alternatives to scribing math and science lectures? [cid:image001.png@01DC4914.1A68C680] Kamran Rasul, MEd. Assistive Technology/Alternate Format Specialist (SDS) Phone: 410-516-1167 E-mail: krasul1@jhu.edu Garland Hall, 1st Floor, Office 135-G 3400 N. Charles Street Baltimore, MD 21218 Schedule a meeting with Kamran From: athen-list On Behalf Of Will Pines via athen-list Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2025 7:55 PM To: Sebastian M Niles ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] A Small Rant About Livescribe External Email - Use Caution Sebastian, I have the same questions. From what I?ve gathered, the Livepen is also going obsolete or going out of production soon so Inq can introduce their own version of the pen. In just the past six months, two pens have gone out of production, the notebooks no longer function properly, and the apps are terrible. Inq is still Livescribe ? not a new company that acquired them. It appears to be more of a rebrand to erase the failure of the last two smart pens. I?ve started looking into other bulk options that don?t require an app and still keep the note-taking system within the pen itself. Unfortunately, the industry seems to have shifted toward personal products that rely on a tablet or smart device, yet don?t even perform the basic function of recording audio directly on the pen. I asked Inq if they would send us a pilot Livepen for a trial so we could evaluate its viability and provide feedback. They declined and said we could purchase a pack of ten instead. Interestingly, someone in an assistive technology group I?m part of (based in Canada) mentioned that Inq sent them a single pen for review?but they ultimately decided it wasn?t worth pursuing. Best, WILL PINES, Disability Specialist Accessible Technology Specialist Student Disability Resource Center he/him/his University of California, Riverside 900 University Avenue 1228 Student Services Building Riverside, CA 92521 Phone: 951-827-3861 | Email: wilbert.pines@ucr.edu Schedule an Appointment SDRC Web | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter ?A mind stretched by new experiences will never go back to its original dimensions.? [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xQkUPdyj4ARXT4TlxZCK5gtxDaiRPTyPCmYa30RanDUHhobc4beMmCjvNZM7_Au3jFky6p3QfM_VFY] On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 4:40?PM Sebastian M Niles via athen-list > wrote: Hello all I'm emailing with a big complaint about Livescribe and wanted to see if anyone had a similar experience. In the past, our university has ordered Livescribe Echo pens for students that love taking their own notes and want to record as well. The Echo 2s were awesome even if they also tried to get you to connect to a bad app (foreshadowing!!). Fast forward to now. It appears that Livescribe has discontinued the Echo 2 and is now selling the Livepen (and also trying to get people to use Inq for some reason). The problem with the Livepen is that it doesn't have a built-in recorder, and it forces you to use the Livepen app if you want to use any of its potential features. As I said before, the app isn't great. I don't feel great about making students rely on it when they wanted an offline notetaking option in the first place. All of this is a roundabout way of saying that I have no idea what Livescribe is trying to do here. Why would they abandon the feature that everyone turned to them for in the first place? Why are they still selling notebook paper with options to "record", "pause", and "stop" if the Livepens can't record outside of the app? Who is the target audience here? Does anyone have good alternatives to Livescribe? I'm not talking about Otter or Genio. I'm looking for something that does what the Echo 2 did. I know I could just give students a digital recorder and call it a day, but I'm hoping that there is some hidden tool that is still committed to doing what Livescribe did. Thank you Sebastian Niles, CPACC Accessible Technology Specialist Student Disability Center University of California-Davis Davis, CA 95616 _______________________________________________ athen-list mailing list athen-list@mailman22.u.washington.edu http://mailman22.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 16012 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Outlook-linjfaps.png Type: image/png Size: 214679 bytes Desc: Outlook-linjfaps.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From athen-list at u.washington.edu Thu Oct 30 09:58:56 2025 From: athen-list at u.washington.edu (Will Pines via athen-list) Date: Thu Oct 30 09:59:14 2025 Subject: [Athen] Online Accessibility and Music Courses? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I consulted with another institution a few years ago (2022) about a visually impaired student who was music major. The student was familiar with Sibelius but the instructor used Finale. I remember working with instructor to see of Finale files could be exported / imported into Sibelius and vice versa. The instructor used Finale to make music examples that were incorporated into PDFs ? they are combined with instructions, so it was not simply a music page. One of the workaround was to export the music xml so student could read using screenreader in Sibelius and student could also compose and export the music xml for instructor to view in Finale. Best, *WILL PINES*, *Disability Specialist* Accessible Technology Specialist Student Disability Resource Center *he/him/his* University of California, Riverside 900 University Avenue 1228 Student Services Building Riverside, CA 92521 Phone: 951-827-3861 | Email: wilbert.pines@ucr.edu Schedule an Appointment SDRC Web | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter ?A mind stretched by new experiences will never go back to its original dimensions.? On Thu, Oct 30, 2025 at 9:46?AM Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) via athen-list wrote: > Hey all, > > > > Our Music Department is just starting to think about how to meet the > upcoming Title II rules, and most of my experience with music has been > custom created alt-formats for a specific student, so not sure about best > practices around music? Music scores posted online seem to be their main > question right now. > > > > UIdaho doesn?t have a central accessibility policy or road map to how we > plan on making online content accessible, which means lots of random > questions for me. Yay? ? > > > > Thanks in advance for any help! > > > > *Eric Matson | Assistant Director - Assistive Technology & Accommodation > Operations * > > Center for Disability Access and Resources > > Division of Student Affairs > > The University of Idaho > > Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Message me on Teams > > > Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 > > Fax: 208.885.9404 > > Campus Zip: 4257 > > > > Treasurer ? Idaho Partnership on Higher Education and Disability > > Pronouns: He / Him / His > > > > This communication, including any attachments, is intended solely for the > entity or individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain > confidential information. 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Overall, we have always saved them as musicXML formats. For music texts or article readings that include a mixture of text and images of music score portions, we will prepare the music portions as musicXML and include alternate text for the images, referencing the file name of the musicXML?this way, the student can cross-reference and listen to the music score portions. [cid:image001.png@01DC499E.404B2840] Kamran Rasul, MEd. Assistive Technology/Alternate Format Specialist (SDS) Phone: 410-516-1167 E-mail: krasul1@jhu.edu Garland Hall, 1st Floor, Office 135-G 3400 N. Charles Street Baltimore, MD 21218 Schedule a meeting with Kamran From: athen-list On Behalf Of Will Pines via athen-list Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2025 12:59 PM To: Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) ; Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Online Accessibility and Music Courses? External Email - Use Caution I consulted with another institution a few years ago (2022) about a visually impaired student who was music major. The student was familiar with Sibelius but the instructor used Finale. I remember working with instructor to see of Finale files could be exported / imported into Sibelius and vice versa. The instructor used Finale to make music examples that were incorporated into PDFs ? they are combined with instructions, so it was not simply a music page. One of the workaround was to export the music xml so student could read using screenreader in Sibelius and student could also compose and export the music xml for instructor to view in Finale. Best, WILL PINES, Disability Specialist Accessible Technology Specialist Student Disability Resource Center he/him/his University of California, Riverside 900 University Avenue 1228 Student Services Building Riverside, CA 92521 Phone: 951-827-3861 | Email: wilbert.pines@ucr.edu Schedule an Appointment SDRC Web | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter ?A mind stretched by new experiences will never go back to its original dimensions.? [https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xQkUPdyj4ARXT4TlxZCK5gtxDaiRPTyPCmYa30RanDUHhobc4beMmCjvNZM7_Au3jFky6p3QfM_VFY] On Thu, Oct 30, 2025 at 9:46?AM Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) via athen-list > wrote: Hey all, Our Music Department is just starting to think about how to meet the upcoming Title II rules, and most of my experience with music has been custom created alt-formats for a specific student, so not sure about best practices around music? Music scores posted online seem to be their main question right now. UIdaho doesn?t have a central accessibility policy or road map to how we plan on making online content accessible, which means lots of random questions for me. Yay? ? Thanks in advance for any help! Eric Matson | Assistant Director - Assistive Technology & Accommodation Operations Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Message me on Teams Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Treasurer ? Idaho Partnership on Higher Education and Disability Pronouns: He / Him / His This communication, including any attachments, is intended solely for the entity or individual(s) to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please notify me immediately and delete this message. 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I wrote a couple of the sections, including the section on music Sample 8: Music - Accessible Image Sample Book It provides some general guidance on accessible documents containing musical notation. You can also find the landing page for the entire resource at Accessible Image Sample Book - DIAGRAM Center Hope that provides some insights. --Steve Noble steve.noble@louisville.edu 502-969-3088 ________________________________ From: athen-list on behalf of Matson, Eric (ecmatson@uidaho.edu) via athen-list Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2025 12:44 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: [Athen] Online Accessibility and Music Courses? CAUTION: This email originated from outside of our organization. Do not click links, open attachments, or respond unless you recognize the sender's email address and know the contents are safe. Hey all, Our Music Department is just starting to think about how to meet the upcoming Title II rules, and most of my experience with music has been custom created alt-formats for a specific student, so not sure about best practices around music? Music scores posted online seem to be their main question right now. UIdaho doesn?t have a central accessibility policy or road map to how we plan on making online content accessible, which means lots of random questions for me. Yay? ? Thanks in advance for any help! Eric Matson | Assistant Director - Assistive Technology & Accommodation Operations Center for Disability Access and Resources Division of Student Affairs The University of Idaho Phone: 208.885.6307 | ecmatson@uidaho.edu| Message me on Teams Bruce M. Pitman Center 127 Fax: 208.885.9404 Campus Zip: 4257 Treasurer ? 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From: Mark Weiler Sent: October 27, 2025 4:40 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Community embossers I attended a talk by some librarians from Kwantlen Polytechnic University in BC, where they have a community embosser. It can be used by anyone, whether from the university or the wider community. It's set up like a regular self-serve printer and public workstation. People can send a print job to the embosser like they can send a job to a laser printer. There are supports to learn how to print it. What I find interesting was a how the community is using it. They told a story of how someone from the community learned about the embosser and came in to have a wedding invitation embossed. Does anyone know of other examples of community embossers? 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Ron Stewart and I made it more useful when we began developing a group doing "Access Technology", a name that Ron coined as far as I know. End of history lesson! I am pleased to hear about the Canadian community embosser, and I would be delighted if US libraries would add a ViewPlus embosser to their computer rooms. The Inclusio project should soon be providing high quality content, graphics in particular, so community embossers could become very valuable resources. I sure hope so. John From: athen-list On Behalf Of Mark Weiler via athen-list Sent: Friday, October 31, 2025 11:07 AM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network Subject: Re: [Athen] Community embossers I haven't heard back from anyone about awareness of community embossers. I wanted to try one more time. See below for more details. From: Mark Weiler Sent: October 27, 2025 4:40 PM To: Access Technology Higher Education Network > Subject: Community embossers I attended a talk by some librarians from Kwantlen Polytechnic University in BC, where they have a community embosser. It can be used by anyone, whether from the university or the wider community. It's set up like a regular self-serve printer and public workstation. People can send a print job to the embosser like they can send a job to a laser printer. There are supports to learn how to print it. What I find interesting was a how the community is using it. They told a story of how someone from the community learned about the embosser and came in to have a wedding invitation embossed. Does anyone know of other examples of community embossers? 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I'd love to get a new one that supports image embossing for the public, but it won't be happening for a while due to budget cuts. I'm just happy the old beast is chugging along still. Thanks, D. On Fri, Oct 31, 2025, 2:47?PM John Gardner via athen-list < athen-list@u.washington.edu> wrote: > Mark, some interesting history about community embossers: The Oregon State > University library bought one of the original Tiger Advantage embossers > about 25 years ago. They made it available to pretty much anybody, but it > was too far ahead of its time. At that time there was no supporting > infrastructure allowing one to send print jobs. Nor was there very much > good content available. Ron Stewart and I made it more useful when we began > developing a group doing ?Access Technology?, a name that Ron coined as far > as I know. End of history lesson! > > > > I am pleased to hear about the Canadian community embosser, and I would be > delighted if US libraries would add a ViewPlus embosser to their computer > rooms. The Inclusio project should soon be providing high quality content, > graphics in particular, so community embossers could become very valuable > resources. I sure hope so. > > > > John > > > > > > *From:* athen-list *On > Behalf Of *Mark Weiler via athen-list > *Sent:* Friday, October 31, 2025 11:07 AM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Re: [Athen] Community embossers > > > > I haven?t heard back from anyone about awareness of community embossers. > I wanted to try one more time. See below for more details. > > > > *From:* Mark Weiler > *Sent:* October 27, 2025 4:40 PM > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network < > athen-list@u.washington.edu> > *Subject:* Community embossers > > > > I attended a talk by some librarians from Kwantlen Polytechnic University > in BC, where they have a community embosser > . > > > > It can be used by anyone, whether from the university or the wider > community. It?s set up like a regular self-serve printer and public > workstation. People can send a print job to the embosser like they can > send a job to a laser printer. There are supports to learn how to print it. > > > > What I find interesting was a how the community is using it. They told a > story of how someone from the community learned about the embosser and came > in to have a wedding invitation embossed. > > > > Does anyone know of other examples of community embossers? > > > > Mark > > > > > > Mark Weiler, PhD (he & him) > > JAWS certified and Web Accessibility Specialist > > Web & User Experience Librarian > > Wilfrid Laurier University > > Waterloo, Ontario > > 548-889-5056 > > Notices > > *Upcoming* Laurier Library workshops & events > > > > _______________________________________________ > athen-list mailing list > athen-list@mailman22.u.washington.edu > http://mailman22.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/athen-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: