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<div>I've been following this handwriting OCR thread with great interest.</div>
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<div>While not a direct answer to Lorraine's original question (converting a PDF of handwritten notes to OCR'd text), here's one other thing to consider relevant to accommodations: there's a difference between handwriting OCR and dynamic handwriting recognition.</div>
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<div>Handwriting OCR examines the static, after-the-fact image of handwritten text or math and attempts to recognize what the user wrote by analyzing the shapes and making a "best guess" by comparing these shapes with known handwriting samples. The process
is similar to the standard OCR we know and (mostly) love.</div>
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<div>Dynamic handwriting recognition, however, analyzes handwriting in real time (as it's being written) and as such has access to additional information with which to make decisions: the individual strokes used to create the handwriting, the sequence of the
strokes, the direction of the writing utensil, the velocity of the writing utensil, pen-up and pen-down movements, and possibly the pressure of the strokes. This produces far more accurate handwriting recognition because it's analyzing "how the image was
made", not just "what the image looks like".</div>
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<div>Dynamic HWR obviously requires a system to capture the handwriting in real time, like a digitizing tablet or touchscreen. OneNote on a touchscreen, Livescribe smartpens, Scribble on iPad with Apple Pencil, and many other apps & devices use dynamic HWR.</div>
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<div>So in terms of accurately recognizing and converting a student's handwriting to text or math, it is advantageous to employ an accommodation that allows the student to capture their handwriting in real time using a dynamic HWR system.</div>
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<div>On Apr 11, 2025, at 5:53 AM, Karen McCall via athen-list <athen-list@u.washington.edu> wrote:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);">Yes.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);">I had to charge my Surface Pen so used the touch screen to “write” a sentence. I then used
the Lasso tool to select the text I’d written.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);">I tapped on one of the handles of the lasso “square” and got the toolbar. There is an arrow
in the toolbar which I tapped. The last item in the context menu is Ink to Text.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);">It worked perfectly. Even with my handwriting.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);">Once my Surface pen is charged, I’ll try it with that.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);">The way the handwriting tool used to work in OneNote is based on algorithms of thousands of
handwriting sample, so it is sort of like word prediction based on the database of handwriting samples. Of course, like voice recognition, it also helps you write better/more legibly as you see the common “oops, I got that wrong” results if any. So, it tends
to train you instead of the other way around.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);">Cheers, Karen<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>athen-list
<<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Joshua
Hori via athen-list<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, April 10, 2025 8:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Karlen Communications <<a href="mailto:info@karlencommunications.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">info@karlencommunications.com</a>>; 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>>;
'Travis Roth' <<a href="mailto:travis@travisroth.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">travis@travisroth.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Athen] Handwriting to OCR text<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I’ve tried it and couldn’t get it to work, so I abandoned the idea for a while. I then realized later that you need to use the lasso to convert the handwriting
to text.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">So…Did the lasso convert imaged handwriting to text?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<b><span style="font-size: 12pt;">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Karlen Communications <<a href="mailto:info@karlencommunications.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">info@karlencommunications.com</a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 5:40</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">AM<br>
<b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Joshua Hori <<a href="mailto:jhori@ucdavis.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">jhori@ucdavis.edu</a>>, 'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>>,
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<b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>RE: [Athen] Handwriting to OCR text<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);">Have you checked OneNote’s ability to convert handwriting to text? Not sure it would work on
a scanned graphic of both handwriting and print but might be worth a try.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);">I used to use it all the time for note taking. Even with my horrid handwriting, it converted
accurately.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);">…and you’ve just given me a task to test this morning!</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: "Aptos Serif", serif; color: rgb(31, 56, 100);">Cheers, Karen</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>athen-list
<<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Joshua
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, April 8, 2025 8:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Travis Roth <<a href="mailto:travis@travisroth.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">travis@travisroth.com</a>>; Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Athen] Handwriting to OCR text</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">The camera fails and throws errors now but if you hover over it, it will still try to OCR and read it aloud. We used to use SeeingAI back in 2018 to convert
handwritten notes into digital text. It worked with good accuracy back then.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">This is the Image Braille GPT (free):</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><a href="https://chatgpt.com/g/g-fXlS5yyJA-image-braille" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://chatgpt.com/g/g-fXlS5yyJA-image-braille</a></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">It’s a little challenging navigating OpenAI with a screenreader since they don’t have ARIA live tags. I find Gemini more accessible to screenreaders. NotebookLM
is accessible…with exception to navigating their chat responses.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Best,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">530-752-2439 </span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-size: 12pt;">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;">athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
on behalf of Travis Roth via athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, April 8, 2025 at 5:34</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">PM<br>
<b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>'Access Technology Higher Education Network' <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On the Read tab SeeingAI does have a take Picture button which will still show the document view. But I’ve not tried handwriting with it, so if you are
saying even the take picture mode is bad at handwriting that is unfortunate.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Can you share how I may find/try the Image Braille agent?</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Joshua
Hori via athen-list<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, April 8, 2025 7:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:foreigntype@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">foreigntype@gmail.com</a>; Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>>;<a href="mailto:lorraine@rcn.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">lorraine@rcn.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">SeeingAI used to convert handwriting to text, but now it just attempts to read it aloud…and it’s not as good as it used to be. That’s a shame.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">You can upload an image of the handwritten text to AI and have it converted to digital text.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Gemini: Best AI for image descriptions and handwritten text.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">ChatGPT: Creates great images but can go wildly inaccurate unless using the “Image Braille” GPT. That’s some high-quality system prompting powering that
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I have video examples of using Gemini and OpenAI on my mobile device to describe lecture content in a LinkedIn article:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-musings-bridging-tactile-chemistry-lecture-audio-joshua-hori-kyglc/?trackingId=sKmgtHt1SPWYrhAnngJuVA%3D%3D" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ai-musings-bridging-tactile-chemistry-lecture-audio-joshua-hori-kyglc/</a></span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Sorry, no video or audio editing tools available. I stream/record on a budget.</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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<b><span style="font-size: 12pt;">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;">athen-list <<a href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">athen-list-bounces@mailman12.u.washington.edu</a>>
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<b>Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tuesday, April 8, 2025 at 8:37</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">AM<br>
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<b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Athen] Handwriting to OCR text</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I am unaware of any OCR software that can do both handwriting and text.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Susan's advice is the best: You'll have to do this in several steps. Use a good text based OCR software (Abbyy FineReader or OmnipagePro) for the text and insert (type up the handwriting manually) separately after removing it (by cleaning up) from the original.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>No easy button for this one!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Wink<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Tue, Apr 8, 2025, 7:20 AM <<a href="mailto:lorraine@rcn.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">lorraine@rcn.com</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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It is handwriting on a PDF. It is the other software that I am looking for recommendations on.<br>
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