<div dir="ltr"><div>Okay great!</div><div><br></div><div>I've worked with that model. It's pretty good. We've been using a Canon DR X10c for over 10 years. The double sheet detection and driver software for color dropout and image adjustment is way better, but they're in the 10k+ range. They also weigh 87 pounds.</div><div><br></div><div>Just something to consider if you do ever get your unit to upgrade.</div><div><br></div><div>Lately we've been way down on scanning requests because we almost always get digital versions from the publishers, but it's nice to have a such a workhorse. I've only had to replace the rollers and pads and keep the glass clean.</div><div><br></div><div>Let me know if you have any questions. Happy to help.</div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="georgia, serif"><b>Xanth King</b></font><div><font face="georgia, serif">Accessible Formats Technology Specialist</font></div><div><font face="georgia, serif"><span>Pronouns</span>: <span>They</span>/<span>Them</span>/Theirs</font></div><div><font face="georgia, serif">Wheeler Hall, Basement Level, </font><span style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:12.8px">Room 22</span></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 10:29 AM Deborah Armstrong <<a href="mailto:armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu">armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-1526833315005152421">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">This was very clear and the scanner model is correct, I was just working remotely and couldn’t remember the exact model.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Canon scanner question<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have found that these older scanner series will work with older drivers on newer machines, but the company doesn't maintain the 'driver signing' which keeps them "secure". As far as I can tell, the protocols work exactly the same despite
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<p class="MsoNormal">However, when you install the Windows 7 driver, even if you confirm that you are okay with the driver being unsigned, Windows 10/11 security will not allow an installation. That is, it will behave as though the installation worked, but
nothing will happen. This is because you have to turn off driver signature enforcement.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This requires administrative access to your computer, so you will likely need help from IT unless you have gotten admin privileges.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If you do, you need to reboot into advanced startup (hold down shift when you hit restart) <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2294-boot-advanced-startup-options-windows-10-a.html__;!!A-B3JKCz!EXzv4PoeeV3cXCc6fkgQRFo7cEiAwDryzU73q47VMSNpdug2d8GVNwgG0sAHpU5M2UJn0SDsNKucULXIjXc5bCnJOHTz_olbT0k$" target="_blank">https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2294-boot-advanced-startup-options-windows-10-a.html</a>
and Disable driver signature enforcement <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.tenforums.com/tutorials/156602-how-enable-disable-driver-signature-enforcement-windows-10-a.html__;!!A-B3JKCz!EXzv4PoeeV3cXCc6fkgQRFo7cEiAwDryzU73q47VMSNpdug2d8GVNwgG0sAHpU5M2UJn0SDsNKucULXIjXc5bCnJOHTzyXr1n-Q$" target="_blank">https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/156602-how-enable-disable-driver-signature-enforcement-windows-10-a.html</a>
(when is only temporary for the next time the computer goes into Windows.)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Then you can install the Windows 7 driver from Canon's website. Run it as administrator. If it doesn't work, try installing it in compatibility mode.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also, it could be a lack of google-fu, but I can't find a DR 8090 driver. Presuming this is the 9080c, here is the page with the driver. You can switch the operating system to Windows 7 and get it there. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was using a 3090 with Windows 7/10 with a generic driver. I was able to get Capture Perfect to work but with only Batch Scan and single page scan.. none of the extended menus
that worked with its original drivers and software. We could no longer get parts for the 3090 (rollers, sensors, etc.).<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Department purchased DRG-2110. I am running the 2110 on Windows 10 with its native Capture software with no problems.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Athen] Canon scanner question</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">Scanner technology has come a long way, and some older Canon scanners (that are not horribly pricey) are working just fine with updated Windows version.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">I still use and absolutely swear by the Canon ImageFormula series of scanners. Sheet feed, have OCR built in, and run just seamlessly for me. These scanners are now 10 years old or so, but have survived every operating system
upgrade I’ve gone through with them. I’m using a Canon DRM160.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">Those older Canon 5080s were so picky about operating systems and just did not upgrade well to new operating systems, but I’m here to tell you that Canon does indeed make scanners that will. Bonus: they have a smaller footprint
so don’t take up hardly any room on my desk. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Canon scanner question</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">The answer is probably no, but here’s the situation. A long time ago I had a Canon high speed scanner, DR 50 something. I think it was a DR5090, but I’m not entirely sure. When Windows 7 came out, there were no longer drivers
that worked with it, though the scanner itself worked fine.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">So I convinced my department to spend another $7,000 on a DR 8090 scanner which is still working fine.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">But Windows 10 came out, again, no drivers supported it.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">So I hid my Windows 7 PC under my desk, even though we had strict rules to surplus all our old computers due to Windows 7 no longer being updated.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">Five years later, and if I still want a high-speed scanner that works with modern Windows 11, I’m going to have to beg again. And it is silly, because this scanner still works just fine. Also the college wants to avoid spending
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<span style="font-size:11pt">So I continue to hide the PC controlling this scanner and wonder if anyone has a better solution.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">I did try running the scanners in a VM, both when Windows XP became deprecated and after that Windows 7, but the drivers would not communicate with the virtual machine. If anyone has had luck doing this, let me know.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">With such an expensive scanner, I’m disappointed that Canon has refused twice to keep its drivers updated for modern operating systems. I know it is in their best interest to sell new models, but they could have sold new drivers
for a few bucks and kept cash flow going that way as well.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">I worry a little about continuing to run Windows 7 just so I can use this scanner, but I also don’t want to explain why I want a new one when this one works fine.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<span style="font-size:11pt">--Debee</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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