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<div>Highly recommend using MathPix for converting large PDFs with math. You can upload the math and have everything automatically created in LaTex. Then you can export as a word doc, and use MathType to one click convert the equations to MathML. </div>
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<b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">athen-list <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:athen-list-bounces@mailman22.u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list-bounces@mailman22.u.washington.edu</a>> on behalf of Susan
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<b>To: </b>Deborah Armstrong <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu" target="_blank">armstrongdeborah@fhda.edu</a>>, Access Technology Higher Education Network <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:athen-list@u.washington.edu" target="_blank">athen-list@u.washington.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Athen] Seeking an accessible math book<span></span></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Deb, I have some files for pre-calc, linear algebra, and calc in both Word with MathType and MathML format. Not whole books, as we really just do the needed sections and chapters, but I can certainly send you some. If this works,
let me know and I’ll put together a selection for you.</span><span></span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Seeking an accessible math book</span><span></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hopefully an OER textbook for basic Math, pre-algebra, and algebra perhaps.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">My goal is to ensure I understand both how the Humanware devices that support math, and the JAWS support for math work.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">I am field-testing one device and I own another one. Plus I use JAWS with several Braille displays.</span><span></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">The Math that’s supported is Math-ML and equations entered in the Word equation editor, so the format of the documents could be either Word or HTML. Images of formulas or equations are not going to cut it!</span><span></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Right now, I have no blind students who use Braille that are taking any math. and those using JAWS are not taking math either right now.</span><span></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">But eventually my Braille readers will be taking some sort of freshman math and so will my JAWS users.</span><span></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">And I want to be ahead of things so I can show the students and their instructors how all this works.</span><span></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’ve listened to a few webinars, but I don’t actually have more than a few simple examples, and what I really need is a textbook so I can try working through some exercises and be able to demo this stuff. Getting Nemeth in textbooks
is pretty easy, but I’m looking for textbooks that the devices or JAWS can work with, because ideally I want instructors producing accessible exams. And of course not all my blind students can read Braille.</span><span></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">I wish someone would get a grant to produce a fully accessible remedial math online course that will allow my blind students to easily qualify for either higher math or give them enough math they can get a non-STEM degree.
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thoughts? Availability of accessible textbooks?</span><span></span></p>
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