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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link="#467886" vlink="#96607D" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hello,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There have been presentations in past years showing problems in reading Math with various screen reader technology. Now that MathCAT is in Jaws and NVDA, many problems have been solved. Apple have made improvements in their math reading, but it still may be behind the MathCAT experience.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I would not consider the content inaccessible if the screen reading software is not doing the job. We should loby Apple to improve the experience.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I think the Apple folks will be at CSUN, and I believe we will be talking about this.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Best<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>George<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-ligatures:none'> athen-list <athen-list-bounces@mailman22.u.washington.edu> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Deborah Armstrong via athen-list<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 20, 2026 8:42 AM<br><b>To:</b> Access Technology Higher Education Network <athen-list@u.washington.edu><br><b>Subject:</b> [Athen] Reading math content with VoiceOver<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>I have some math exams a professor prepared using the Word equation editor. I can read them fine with NVDA and JAWS. I particularly like the JAWS math viewer.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>My student however uses VoiceOver on the Mac and says the exams are not accessible.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Two questions: can VoiceOver read math content? Can these exams be converted to something VoiceOver could read?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Also if NVDA and JAWS can read something that VoiceOver cannot read, would you consider it inaccessible?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Though I use Braille and could read the math content in Nemeth my student doesn’t know Braille so it’s not a consideration here.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>--Debee<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>