[Athen] CART alternatives

[Wise, Erika via athen-list]

Hi Ione,

My campus just switched from Otter to Glean.  Both apps work similarly though Glean's interface looks different.  I'm still rolling this out to campus so I don't have any testimonials to pass along but feel free to contact me off-list.

ERIKA WISE, MS, CRC
Assistant Director
Alternative Testing Center & Adaptive Technology
erika.wise at uta.edu
Office: (817) 272-3420
@utasarcenter
601 S. Nedderman Dr.
University Hall 104
Arlington, Texas 76019



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   1. CART alternatives (Ione Priest via athen-list)
   2. Re: CART alternatives (Sebastian M Niles via athen-list)
   3. Re: CART alternatives (Eileen Berger via athen-list)


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Hello all,

We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with Otter for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT department is eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to security concerns and has asked that we explore other options in its stead. Are any of you using tools as an alternative to CART? If so, I'd greatly appreciate any insights you can offer!


Thanks,



Ione Priest (they/she) | Assistant Director of Accessibility Technology and Testing

CPACC, DHS Certified Trusted Tester

Access Center

Metropolitan State University of Denver

303-615-0200 (office)

http://www.msudenver.edu/access <http://www.msudenver.edu/access>



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Hello Ione

My university has used remote captioners in the past, which can help fill the gaps for any students who needs human edited captions. We've also used Ava (https://www.ava.me/), which is a blend of human captioning and Otter style automatic captioning. Students can use the automatic captioning, and then request (or schedule) a human captioner for a class. The human edited captions requires more money though.

Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his)
Accessible Technology Assistant
Student Disability Center
University of California-Davis
Davis, CA 95616

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Hello all,

We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with Otter for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT department is eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to security concerns and has asked that we explore other options in its stead. Are any of you using tools as an alternative to CART? If so, I'd greatly appreciate any insights you can offer!


Thanks,



Ione Priest (they/she) | Assistant Director of Accessibility Technology and Testing

CPACC, DHS Certified Trusted Tester

Access Center

Metropolitan State University of Denver

303-615-0200 (office)

http://www.msudenver.edu/access <http://www.msudenver.edu/access>



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Hi ,
I have a question about human captioning/CART. Are student requests driving the need for in class CART service? Transcriptions from so many Apps/sources are very close to or equal to the more expensive CART service output. Cart service providers are rare, costly and are not instantly available. What is the rationale for using human CART services over AI driven apps and services that bundle the transcription with note taking, summaries, etc?
Eileen Berger

On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 11:46?AM Sebastian M Niles via athen-list < athen-list at u.washington.edu> wrote:


> Hello Ione

>

> My university has used remote captioners in the past, which can help

> fill the gaps for any students who needs human edited captions. We've

> also used Ava

> (https://www/

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>

> Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his)

> Accessible Technology Assistant

> Student Disability Center

> University of California-Davis

> Davis, CA 95616

>

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> *Subject:* [Athen] CART alternatives

>

> Hello all,

>

> We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper

> alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with

> Otter for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT

> department is eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to

> security concerns and has asked that we explore other options in its

> stead. Are any of you using tools as an alternative to CART? If so,

> I'd greatly appreciate any insights you can offer!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> *Ione Priest* *(they/she)* | *Assistant Director of Accessibility

> Technology and Testing*

>

> CPACC, DHS Certified Trusted Tester

>

> Access Center

>

> Metropolitan State University of Denver

>

> 303-615-0200 (office)

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