[Athen] CART alternatives

[Eileen Berger via athen-list]

Hi All,
I attended the Tailo webinar sponsored by AHEAD on Feb 12 . It was
interesting and may be another alternative along with GLEAN which is also
AI driven and versatile.(BTW- Glean puts out great webinars and useful data
on users and upgrades.)  It was not billed as a CART alternative but speech
to text and text to speech capability.
I believe the webinar may still be available for viewing.
I am copying the blurb AHEAD put out for Tailo below.
Eileen Berger

"Topic: Sponsored Webinar (Tailo by Estendio): AI for Inclusion- Empowering
Access Without Compromising Integrity Description: As AI becomes
increasingly integrated into education, it offers powerful strategies for
making learning more inclusive and accessible. However, it also raises
important questions about academic integrity and ethical boundaries.In this
webinar, with Jennifer Murchison, Executive Director, Universal Access &
Inclusion and ADA Coordinator, will explore how disability services
professionals and educators can harness AI to support diverse learners
while maintaining academic standards. Topics include: - Practical
strategies for using AI as an addition to an accommodation tool -
Differentiating between ethical uses of AI and practices that may
compromise academic integrity - Discuss AI tools such as Tailo that promote
efficiency in reading through AI implementation as well as supporting
accessibility and inclusion needs for reading tasks If you are part of a
disability services team or student/academic success, and want to start
building your playbook on how AI can support disabled students then don’t
miss out on this invaluable session. This event will be recorded and made
available on the 'Sponsored Webinars' page after the live webinar has
finished."

On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 4:53 PM Wise, Erika via athen-list <
athen-list at u.washington.edu> wrote:


> Hi Ione,

>

> My campus just switched from Otter to Glean.  Both apps work similarly

> though Glean's interface looks different.  I'm still rolling this out to

> campus so I don't have any testimonials to pass along but feel free to

> contact me off-list.

>

> ERIKA WISE, MS, CRC

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> Alternative Testing Center & Adaptive Technology

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>    1. CART alternatives (Ione Priest via athen-list)

>    2. Re: CART alternatives (Sebastian M Niles via athen-list)

>    3. Re: CART alternatives (Eileen Berger via athen-list)

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> Hello all,

>

> We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper

> alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with Otter

> for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT department is

> eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to security concerns and

> has asked that we explore other options in its stead. Are any of you using

> tools as an alternative to CART? If so, I'd greatly appreciate any insights

> you can offer!

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> Ione Priest (they/she) | Assistant Director of Accessibility Technology

> and Testing

>

> CPACC, DHS Certified Trusted Tester

>

> Access Center

>

> Metropolitan State University of Denver

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> 303-615-0200 (office)

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> From: Sebastian M Niles via athen-list <athen-list at u.washington.edu>

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> Hello Ione

>

> My university has used remote captioners in the past, which can help fill

> the gaps for any students who needs human edited captions. We've also used

> Ava (https://www.ava.me/), which is a blend of human captioning and Otter

> style automatic captioning. Students can use the automatic captioning, and

> then request (or schedule) a human captioner for a class. The human edited

> captions requires more money though.

>

> Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his)

> Accessible Technology Assistant

> Student Disability Center

> University of California-Davis

> Davis, CA 95616

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> Subject: [Athen] CART alternatives

>

> Hello all,

>

> We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper

> alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with Otter

> for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT department is

> eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to security concerns and

> has asked that we explore other options in its stead. Are any of you using

> tools as an alternative to CART? If so, I'd greatly appreciate any insights

> you can offer!

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> Ione Priest (they/she) | Assistant Director of Accessibility Technology

> and Testing

>

> CPACC, DHS Certified Trusted Tester

>

> Access Center

>

> Metropolitan State University of Denver

>

> 303-615-0200 (office)

>

> http://www.msudenver.edu/access <http://www.msudenver.edu/access>

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> Hi ,

> I have a question about human captioning/CART. Are student requests

> driving the need for in class CART service? Transcriptions from so many

> Apps/sources are very close to or equal to the more expensive CART service

> output. Cart service providers are rare, costly and are not instantly

> available. What is the rationale for using human CART services over AI

> driven apps and services that bundle the transcription with note taking,

> summaries, etc?

> Eileen Berger

>

> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 11:46?AM Sebastian M Niles via athen-list <

> athen-list at u.washington.edu> wrote:

>

> > Hello Ione

> >

> > My university has used remote captioners in the past, which can help

> > fill the gaps for any students who needs human edited captions. We've

> > also used Ava

> > (https://www/

> > .ava.me%2F&data=05%7C02%7Cerika.wise%40uta.edu%7C343779c6777946987ef90

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> which is a blend of human captioning and Otter style automatic captioning.

> Students can use the automatic captioning, and then request (or schedule) a

> human captioner for a class. The human edited captions requires more money

> though.

> >

> > Sebastian Niles, CPACC (he/him/his)

> > Accessible Technology Assistant

> > Student Disability Center

> > University of California-Davis

> > Davis, CA 95616

> >

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> > behalf of Ione Priest via athen-list <athen-list at u.washington.edu>

> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2025 6:57 AM

> > *To:* Access Technology Higher Education Network <

> > athen-list at u.washington.edu>

> > *Subject:* [Athen] CART alternatives

> >

> > Hello all,

> >

> > We previously purchased a license for Otter.ai to provide a cheaper

> > alternative to CART for a student (the student had experience with

> > Otter for this purpose, so it was a good fit). However, our IT

> > department is eager to eliminate Otter from our ecosystem due to

> > security concerns and has asked that we explore other options in its

> > stead. Are any of you using tools as an alternative to CART? If so,

> > I'd greatly appreciate any insights you can offer!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> > *Ione Priest* *(they/she)* | *Assistant Director of Accessibility

> > Technology and Testing*

> >

> > CPACC, DHS Certified Trusted Tester

> >

> > Access Center

> >

> > Metropolitan State University of Denver

> >

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