[Athen] [EXT] Re: [EXTERNAL *] Re: Accessible APA Publication Manual

[ELIZABETH KILLINGER via athen-list]

I disagree... some books, some publishers are better than others for books
on Bookshare... but some publishers directly upload to bookshare and that's
where they send you if you direct request. No source (even publishers
directly) will provide you perfect accessible copies. Part of our job is
update them for the needs of our students. For a majority of students,
though, bookshare is perfectly fine.

*Elizabeth Killinger*
*Associate Coordinator*

*FIT-ABLE | Office of Disability ServicesFashion Institute of Technology*
David Dubinsky Student Center, A570
Phone: 212.217.4090
Website: fitnyc.edu/fitable

On Wed, Jul 9, 2025, 6:04 PM Susan Kelmer via athen-list <
athen-list at u.washington.edu> wrote:


> I may sound like a broken record, but Bookshare files are of questionable

> quality in most circumstances, with a vast array of missing information and

> a lack of formatting that is normally expected as a standard in an

> accessible file.

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> I have been saying this for literally years.  I’ve had discussions with

> Bookshare personnel in different areas of the organization and it is always

> the same, “we don’t really have anything to do with that, you will have to

> talk to someone else,” or some various versions of “this is what the

> publisher sent us.”  Any of us who work in this field know that there are

> much better quality materials from publishers directly than we are seeing

> in Bookshare versions, aka, it would be preferable if the publisher would

> just give us their PDF files.  At least everything starts out in the right

> place there. And from there, I can create a fully accessible Word or HTML

> document with all elements included, formatted properly for all types of

> readers in just a few hours.

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> Bookshare files are woefully inadequate for most academic uses.  It’s fine

> if you just want to hear a popular novel or something, but for something

> like this, it needs a massive amount of remediation to become the document

> it should have been when it was first produced as “born accessible” by

> Bookshare.

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> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman22.u.washington.edu> *On

> Behalf Of *Mark Weiler via athen-list

> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 9, 2025 3:04 PM

> *To:* kerscher at montana.com; Access Technology Higher Education Network <

> athen-list at u.washington.edu>; 'Ho, Joyce Y - (joyceho)' <

> joyceho at arizona.edu>

> *Subject:* Re: [Athen] [EXTERNAL *] Re: Accessible APA Publication Manual

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> When I compare the version available through CELA, which I understand

> comes through Bookshare, and the EPUB from APA directly, I observe

> significant differences in quality.  CELA has missing figures, no links,

> and lists that seem to use asterisks.  I base my observation on a spot

> check with JAWS.

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> I wonder if the one through CELA is actually different than the one

> through Bookshare? George, can you confirm that in the version from

> Bookshare, before section 5.2, there is a properly bulleted list that

> starts with “When writing about age, exact ages or age ranges…”.  In the

> one through CELA, this is a clip of the speech history with JAWS. Notice

> how it incorrectly starts with an asterisk:

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> * When writing about age, exact ages or age ranges (e.g., 15-18 years old,

> 65-80 years old) are more specific than broad categories (e.g., under 18

> years

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> old, over 65 years old; see Section 5.3).

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> This image shows the corresponding section in the EPUB from CELA.

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> [image: Described above.]

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> This second image is from the same section  in a EPUB directly from APA.

> Notice it uses a bullet and also has a hyperlink.

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> [image: Described above]

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> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman22.u.washington.edu> *On

> Behalf Of *via athen-list

> *Sent:* July 9, 2025 3:38 PM

> *To:* 'Ho, Joyce Y - (joyceho)' <joyceho at arizona.edu>; 'Access Technology

> Higher Education Network' <athen-list at u.washington.edu>

> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL *] Re: [Athen] Accessible APA Publication Manual

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> Hello, It is in Bookshare, ISBN 9781433832185

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> Best

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> George

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> *From:* athen-list <athen-list-bounces at mailman22.u.washington.edu> *On

> Behalf Of *Ho, Joyce Y - (joyceho) via athen-list

> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 9, 2025 12:50 PM

> *To:* athen-list at u.washington.edu

> *Subject:* [Athen] Accessible APA Publication Manual

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> Hello!

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> Would anyone happen to have an accessible copy of the following book:

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>    - Title: *Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association*,

>    7th Edition

>    - Publisher: American Psychological Association

>    - ISBN: 978-1433832178

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> Thank you!

>

> Joyce

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> *Joyce Ho*

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> Accessible Content and Media Coordinator

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> Disability Resource Center | The University of Arizona

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